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  • Which is safer?

    Sidestreets or freeways? Sidestreets have all the stop signs/lights and intersections but a slower speed. Freeways don't have all the intersections but higher speeds.

    Curious as to what everyone's opinion is.

  • #2
    buy the book total control by lee parks he talks about all of that,

    it depends on alot of things, and you have it right about the two, and you are aware and aware is what it's all about.
    "a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
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    82 yamaha seca 750
    87 yamaha fazer
    86 yamaha maxim x
    82 yamaha vision
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    • #3
      Freeways, hands down.

      Of course I grew up riding in NYC, if you survive that, you will survive anything. Didi i just jinx myself ?YIKES!

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      • #4
        Where I am at I have to say side streets. I stay off freeways because people are in too big a hurry and will tailgate you. Trucks thowing dirt, rocks, and other debries. Our freeway speed limit is 65 thru the city but you have to ride at least 80 MPH or faster to keep from getting run down.
        1980 XS Eleven Special

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        • #5
          wapam,
          Neither, it's just as dangerous on a side street as on the freeway. You have to drive defensively no matter where you are cause, there is no such thing as a fender bender on a bike.

          http://www.veoh.com/videos/v306596d5bwkRP5?rank=4


          PS. The only thing that scares me are soccer moms....
          1979 XS1100SF "Sakura Natsuhiboshi"

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          • #6
            while on the freeway

            if you split lanes like i do, that changes things a little and


            if you are racing a harley or any other bike, i've actually went at it with a highway patrol ( they like to see if you are good)while splitting lanes in los angeles traffic that too changes things a little.

            so again it all depends...
            "a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
            History
            85 Yamaha FJ 1100
            79 yamaha xs1100f
            03 honda cbr 600 f4
            91 yamaha fzr 600
            84 yamaha fj 1100
            82 yamaha seca 750
            87 yamaha fazer
            86 yamaha maxim x
            82 yamaha vision
            78 yamaha rd 400

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            • #7
              Giving bikes a bad name

              Check this out

              http://www.mikeodom.name/2007/02/09/...-crashes-video

              This one is very Graphic! - If people are driving like this there is NO safe place to ride!

              http://www.truveo.com/Motor-scooter-.../id/1337325077
              Last edited by Tusler; 09-08-2008, 12:24 PM.
              1980 Xs1100 MNS Sold for $1800
              2004 Roadstar XV1700
              45 to 50 MPG
              Ask Jesus for Forgiveness before it is too late!

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              • #8
                if you split lanes like i do,
                What is splitting lanes?
                Ich habe dich nicht gefragt.

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                • #9
                  I like side streets for the curves, but am always afraid of gravel and sand. Freeway I can typically get away from people, but you have to watch out for them too. So it's 50/50 for me, your screwed either way. But riding is a dangerous sport, you just learn to deal with it.
                  http://www.myspace.com/i_give_you_power

                  1980 XS11 Special - chopped, dropped and OCTY is still installed - NOW IT'S FOR SALE! $1,800 OBO


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                  "Don't mess with TEXAS! It's not nice to pick on retards."

                  It's funny because I am from TEXAS!

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                  • #10
                    lane splitting

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCfxoxs0cCg
                    2H7 (79) owned since '89
                    3H3 owned since '06

                    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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                    • #11
                      Most accidents (in sheer numbers) happen at intersections. Freeways have fewer intersections per mile, so are considered statistically safer.

                      My daily commute is 113 miles, about 6 miles is on city streets. I worry more in the 6 miles than the other 107. See more accidents on those 6 miles as well.

                      Splitting lanes is where you ride between 2 other vehicles, usually on the line that separates the lanes of traffice. You are not in a traffic lane. It is legal in some states, I don't know about all, including California.

                      However, technically there are restrictions. A few years ago I called the California Highway Patrol to find out more about this. For example, it is illegal to go faster than the car on your left when lane splitting. Generally these restrictions are ignored, but you can get a ticket for lane splitting violations.

                      Be advised that many cage drivers hate this practice and will not hesitate to swerve into your open space, stick things out windows to upset / distract you, and throw things on you when you pass them. Most drivers will not, but a few won't hesitate to try to make your life miserable. If you are in a state that allows lane splitting, be extra careful when taking advantage of this provision.
                      Jerry Fields
                      '82 XJ 'Sojourn'
                      '06 Concours
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                      • #12
                        Lane splitting was not exactly legal when I was in japan, but you were allowed to move to the front if traffic was stopped. That just made your perception of stopped a little different than everyone else's, even the japanese motorcycle cops did it. But they were always doing some wild sh_t to catch the crazies on hopped up bikes.
                        Check it.

                        http://www.metacafe.com/watch/373397...they_scare_me/

                        one more

                        http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=_1Vsnw1u5g4
                        Last edited by barberad; 09-08-2008, 04:28 PM.
                        Current Rides: '82 XJ w/Jardine 4-1's, GIVI flyscreen, '97 Triumph Trophy 1200
                        Former Rides: '71 CB350, '78 400 Hawk, '75 CB550/4;
                        while in Japan: '86 KLR250, '86 VT250Z, '86 XL600R, '82 CB450(Hawk II), '96 750 Nighthawk, '96 BMW F650

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by barberad
                          Lane splitting was not exactly legal when I was in japan, but you were allowed to move to the front if traffic was stopped. That just made your perception of stopped a little different than everyone else's, even the japanese motorcycle cops did it. But they were always doing some wild sh_t to catch the crazies on hopped up bikes.
                          Check it.

                          http://www.metacafe.com/watch/373397...they_scare_me/

                          one more

                          http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=_1Vsnw1u5g4
                          Their bikes sure are whiny! They sound like an electric motor.
                          http://www.myspace.com/i_give_you_power

                          1980 XS11 Special - chopped, dropped and OCTY is still installed - NOW IT'S FOR SALE! $1,800 OBO


                          Famous Myspace quote:

                          "Don't mess with TEXAS! It's not nice to pick on retards."

                          It's funny because I am from TEXAS!

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                          • #14
                            They ride VFR80OP/VFR750P's. I guess the P stands for "Police".
                            They throw them things around like dirt bikes though.
                            Current Rides: '82 XJ w/Jardine 4-1's, GIVI flyscreen, '97 Triumph Trophy 1200
                            Former Rides: '71 CB350, '78 400 Hawk, '75 CB550/4;
                            while in Japan: '86 KLR250, '86 VT250Z, '86 XL600R, '82 CB450(Hawk II), '96 750 Nighthawk, '96 BMW F650

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                            • #15
                              The VFRs are known to be very maneuverable. I'm used to a little more deep and throaty VFR sound.
                              http://www.myspace.com/i_give_you_power

                              1980 XS11 Special - chopped, dropped and OCTY is still installed - NOW IT'S FOR SALE! $1,800 OBO


                              Famous Myspace quote:

                              "Don't mess with TEXAS! It's not nice to pick on retards."

                              It's funny because I am from TEXAS!

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