broke carbs

[kf4bxd]

I have two pilot screws boke off in a set off carbs. bike has been missing on and off so i took the carb off to see if trash and junk in the bowl and see that the intake see was kinda black lookin and found that two piolt screws were broke (how do you get them out) just the tip end in stuck in there????

Or am i just screwed Edward

[mro]

Might take a look here
http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...=&threadid=138

I tried the above but would not work for me.
I made this from a FUBARed tap which I then held with a vise grip and a single tap on the grip with a wrench popped em right out.

The plyer idea did not work out and have not got around to fixing it. Notice that the tip of the ground tap is almost the same size as the broken pilot tip in photo but has sorta of a blunt end.




mro

[Ken Talbot]

If you try the push pin method, use a fine file to flatten the end of the pin so it does not slip off the end of the broken point.

[kf4bxd]

I,ll try the push pin first and then try thr pliers thing. oh bye the way i has been spraying wd40 and 3 in one oil in the holes maybe that will help get them lose. i. ll tell you tomorrow if it works Thanks xs fans how can i send pictures

[Crazcnuk]

I just used the round part of a phillips screwdriver.

Reached in, pushed up. Popped them out no problem.

[mro]

originally posted by kf4bxd
Thanks xs fans how can i send pictures

You typed the majic word "pictures"!!!

You need a picture hosting site.
I use photobucket.com (it's free as are several others)
After you activate your account, follow there instructions and upload your pics there.
Under each pic will be four one line tags.
Copy the one labeled IMG and past in you post here and pic will appear like this




mro

[kf4bxd]

Nothing work for me so now i guess a machine shop will have to Drill it out I may have destroyed them anyway trying to get them out.











Whoops.. tried to get his photo to work...Uhmm, A little large.
(Prom)

[kf4bxd]

heres more oops






http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/100_1849.jpg


http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/o...aster/100_1850

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/o...r/100_1851.jpg

[mro]

If you were not so far away would give ya a hand.
If no further damage...might still be OK but won't know until you try to adjust the pilot screws.


mro
BYW, I peeked at you LG
I see someone has done a little electrical mod (starter selinoid)
Hows it work?

[kf4bxd]

it works great. the bike has came a long way if you look at the other pictures different speed omd paint motor new front tire differnt carbs and a windsheild. i still like riding it when it works man the power they have is wow i get back to running for too long just need time to see what too do next

[mro]

TC (the administrator here) happens to have a very cool replacement fuse box and it's very reasonably priced (if you have not got around to replacing yours that is )

Someday may do more than just tinker with my LG. Spend too much time goofing off and not enough working


mro

[kf4bxd]

anyway to but bigger screws

Is there anyway to put bigger screws in carbs ????? looks like the machine shop said that was the only way to get them free.(there really stuck) What i,m asking if we drill out the holes can you buy or find bigger tapperd screws to fit.



Thanks for all your help


Ed

[kf4bxd]

can you take two other year make carbs,and take the two bad ones replace with too older ones 79 and 80 take to different set and make one good one?

[Crazcnuk]

Maybe, but not likely.

You can use any year of carbs on any year of XS1100, but every year, and nearly every model had subtle changes to the carbs.

You would be better off to try to find a bank of 4 good carbs to use, if you can't get yours figured out.

As for the tips, there is no reason for them to be badly stuck. The only thing that breaks them off is over tightening them down into the bore. Normally, they are not touching the sides at all, at the tip.

It's just a matter of finding a way to push the broken tip(s) back up into the screw bore without making the hole bigger.

as I mentioned, I used the round part of a phillips screwdriver. I just put the side of the shaft against the tip and pushed up.

[tarzan]

If I understand it right. The 78 and 79 carbs seat on a taper ,that is why they get stuck when seated to hard.The 80 and 81 dont seat on the taper the holes are a little different..So
it doesnt tipically happen to them.So it can be very difficult to free them in earlier carbs.Heating them up might work.Or maybe grind a special tool for a mill?