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  • NemisusDM
    Truly XSive
    • Oct 2006
    • 147
    • Carmel, NY

    #1

    Slide needle height?

    Do all 4 slide needles need to be in the same position?

    I have
    #1 at -1 lean
    #2 at -1 lean
    #3 at 0 center
    #4 at ?
    1979 XS1100SF "Sakura Natsuhiboshi"
  • bikerphil
    Master of XSology
    • Jan 2008
    • 8631
    • South Flori-DUH

    #2
    They should be all the same, in most cases in pos. 3 (center). I've experimented with them in other positions and 3 always worked the best for me.
    2H7 (79) owned since '89
    3H3 owned since '06

    "If it ain't broke, modify it"

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    • TADracer
      XS-XJ Guru
      • May 2006
      • 1417
      • Kenner, Louisiana USA

      #3
      Center position on all four has always worked best for me too. I have tinkered with other positions but always come back to the center. Raising or lowering the needle even one small notch can have a big influence on how fast the mains are opened up at mid-throttle positions.
      Mike Giroir
      79 XS-1100 Special

      Once you un-can a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is with a bigger can.

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      • prometheus578
        XS-XJ Super Guru (RESIGNED)
        • Aug 2004
        • 4012
        • Olympia , Wa.

        #4
        "All the same...."

        Unless you want only two cylinders doing most the work.
        "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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        • NemisusDM
          Truly XSive
          • Oct 2006
          • 147
          • Carmel, NY

          #5
          Would this create a buzz at W.O.T and a loss of power at over 100 mph????
          1979 XS1100SF "Sakura Natsuhiboshi"

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          • Dennyz
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Jul 2002
            • 1151
            • Olympia, Washington

            #6
            I get a buzz at wide open throttle every time, the motor runs smooth :-)
            DZ
            Vyger, 'F'
            "The Special", 'SF'
            '08 FJR1300

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            • prometheus578
              XS-XJ Super Guru (RESIGNED)
              • Aug 2004
              • 4012
              • Olympia , Wa.

              #7
              Would this create a buzz at W.O.T and a loss of power at over 100 mph????
              Hard to say....
              By buzz, do you mean vibration?
              That's a possability.
              With different/unequal needle settings, you'll have cylinders putting out different amounts of power.
              Sort of like at idle.. when the carbs are badly out of synch... runs badly, poor power, vibrates, etc.
              "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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              • NemisusDM
                Truly XSive
                • Oct 2006
                • 147
                • Carmel, NY

                #8
                I set all the needles to the same height (3) and man has that engine quieted down!
                Acceleration MUCH smoother!!

                Thanks Guys!
                1979 XS1100SF "Sakura Natsuhiboshi"

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                • thewiz
                  XS-XJ Guru
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 1115
                  • Wilksboro, NC

                  #9
                  "I saw the needle and the damage done"

                  according to Neil Young ... and I think I know what he was talkin' about, in a manner of speaking. Just today checked the slide needles on my set of carbs .... only number three carb had the needle set in the center position. Rest were one notch rich ..... motor idled and ran fine but petered out badly between 5 and 6K rpm and eventually fouled the some of the plugs ... been makin' me crazy. Now it wants to pull the bars outa' my hands ..... yup.... center's the spot alright.
                  80G Mini-bagger
                  VM33 Smooth bores, Pods, 4/1 Supertrapp, SS brake lines, fork brace

                  Past XS11s

                  79F Stone stocker and former daily driver, sold May '10 now converting for N.O. to cafe style
                  79SF eventually dismantled for parts
                  79F Bought almost new in 80, sold for a house
                  79F The Ernie bike sold to a Navy dude summer 08
                  79SF Squared-off Special, Vetter/Bates tour pkg., Mikes XS coils, G rear fender and tail light. Sold June 09

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