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    This weekend i got productive and rebuilt the front calipers on the XS and put on new pads.........well after bleeding all the air out of the lines it just so happens that my brake handle some times is firm and sometimes is not at all and will travel all the way to the grip and not have enought force to slow the bike, but if i let go and squeze again it will build the pressure and brake but still not as good as it use to.......so i re-bled the brakes to check for more air, but nun.... the calipers are not leaking anything at all, nor the lines.....


    any ideas?
    1979 XS1100 SF "Black Goblin"
    -Pod Filters
    -4-1 pipe
    -larger jets for carbs
    1982 XJ1100 "Black Sheep"

  • #2
    You've still got air in the system somewhere. Otherwise, the lever would be rock hard all the time, every time. Sort of like cleaning the carbs three times, or more....
    Ken Talbot

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    • #3
      It's possible that fluid is leaking past the plunger in the master cylinder. If you have properly bled the system and there are no leaks anywhere, then this is the only other explanation.
      Tim Ripley - Gaithersburg, MD
      1981 XS1100 Special "Spoiled Rotten" Just sold - currently bikeless!!
      23mm float height
      120 main jets
      42.5 pilot jets
      drilled stock airbox with K&N
      Jardine 4 to 1 Exhaust
      spade fusebox
      1st and 2nd gear fix

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      • #4
        Originally posted by XSPastor
        It's possible that fluid is leaking past the plunger in the master cylinder. If you have properly bled the system and there are no leaks anywhere, then this is the only other explanation.

        could be, but it didnt do that before......it was consistant.

        i will have to go through them again tonight
        1979 XS1100 SF "Black Goblin"
        -Pod Filters
        -4-1 pipe
        -larger jets for carbs
        1982 XJ1100 "Black Sheep"

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        • #5
          I had the same problem. Sometimes air gets trapped in the splitter and it takes a long time to bubble out. It can also get stuck at the banjo off the MC. I bled mine and bled mine and still ahd a soft pull. Someone on this site, think it was AlanB, suggest to pump the lever until rock hard.....pull it as tight to the bars as possible....then bunjee or clamp it that position and leave overnight. I did and it worked!
          Ernie
          79XS1100SF (no longer naked, now a bagger)
          (Improving with age, the bike that is)

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          • #6
            i will have to try that
            1979 XS1100 SF "Black Goblin"
            -Pod Filters
            -4-1 pipe
            -larger jets for carbs
            1982 XJ1100 "Black Sheep"

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            • #7
              troubles with bubbles...

              Hey Geniusloerts,
              I had to bleed my lines 3 times when I switched to SS lines. It's the splitter and the banjo at the mc that cause the troubles with bubbles.....
              1979 XS1100SF "Sakura Natsuhiboshi"

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              • #8
                hahaha

                hahaha....


                troubles with bubbles....


                hahaha

                that rhymes!!
                1979 XS1100 SF "Black Goblin"
                -Pod Filters
                -4-1 pipe
                -larger jets for carbs
                1982 XJ1100 "Black Sheep"

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                • #9
                  The Troubles with Bubbles....

                  1979 XS1100SF "Sakura Natsuhiboshi"

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                  • #10
                    i have seen that episode.....

                    it also makes me think of Grimlins and Ferbees

                    haha
                    1979 XS1100 SF "Black Goblin"
                    -Pod Filters
                    -4-1 pipe
                    -larger jets for carbs
                    1982 XJ1100 "Black Sheep"

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