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  • Cause of Carb leak??

    Hi guys......... someday we may actually get to ride this bike.

    So he has been cleaning carburators for days, he replaced the float needles and seats.......... but we still have a slight leak or whatever from the 3rd carb (see picture)



    any ideas of what would cause a leak at this hole?
    Sorry I don't know all the technical names for stuff but he wrenches and I computers.
    1979 XS1100 Special - since 2008
    1977 XS750 Special - since 1985

  • #2
    The float needle has a slight leak.
    79 F full cruiser, stainless brake lines, spade fuses, Accel coils, modded air box w/larger velocity stacks, 750 FD.
    79 SF parts bike.

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    • #3
      The needle and seat are brand new just out of the packet..........
      So you are saying the needle isn't seating quite right, so how do you fix that??? If we adjust the float would that make the needle seat better?

      I am sorry to sound so "duh" but I have to understand what I am trying to tell my husband he needs to do to get this bike on its wheels!
      1979 XS1100 Special - since 2008
      1977 XS750 Special - since 1985

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      • #4
        zookey:

        That passage is an air port to the fuel bowl. When the bowl gets too full, fuel leaks out of that passage as well as the one on your left and also out of the throat of the carburetor. It also leaks out of the front of the carburetor and into the piston area, down the sides and into the oil sump. This may dilute your oil and cause a problem with the lubrication of your main bearings. That is why many on this board recommend that you change your oil if you have had a consistent fuel leak.

        Leaks are caused by the valve seat assembly not sealing correctly because of a fiber washer malfunction on your 79 carburetors. It could also be caused by the needle valve not seating correctly to stop the flow of fuel. This flow is maintained by your floats pressing down on the needle valve as the fuel bowl fills up. It could also be caused by your floats rubbing against the sides or forward edge of the fuel bowl seizing them and not letting them press against the needle valve. It also could be caused by a piece of debris (trash) between the needle valve and the seat. Note that the 79 and 80 carburetors needle seat arrangement are different. The 79 had a screw in seat with a fiber washer so you may want to check to see that that washer is present, as that is one area that leaks (seeps) fuel bypassing the needle arrangement. The 80 had push in seats with an "O" ring sealing and a clip holder.

        I had a dickens of a time stopping my 80G carburetors from leaking, even after replacing all new parts. I finally found that my floats were rubbing on the sides of the bowl see: http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...hlight=boyat68

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        • #5
          zookey:

          You may want to peruse the excellent write up of Ken Talbot's sight gauge method of setting floats found at: http://www.xs11.com/tips/maintenance/maint20.shtml

          I endorse this as the many times I had to remove and check the carburetors due to leaking fuel.

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          • #6
            hey zookey,

            May or may not be it... but something else you might check...

            I just replaced a float needle and after getting everything in place... still had a leak... Seems the rubber tip was offset (it came like this from the package) just enough to let the needle get hung up and it wasn't seating properly...
            Also, sometimes the little tab on the float close to the posts will get hung up and not allow the float to move...

            Hope this helps...
            81 SH Something Special
            81 frame, 80 tank and side covers, 79 tail light and carbs, 78 engine, 750 final drive mod, Geezer rec/reg, 140 mains, LH wheels


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            • #7
              zookey:
              Another thread that you may be interested in.
              http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...s&pagenumber=2

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