Leaky Petcocks Caused Trouble

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  • firecrackerboom
    XSive
    • Jul 2007
    • 81
    • South Dakota

    #1

    Leaky Petcocks Caused Trouble

    The petcocks have leaked since I bought the bike. I just shut them off when I am done riding, and it causes no problems. Well I traveled out of town this weekend, and when I got back I realized the petcocks were open. Now there is a bunch of gas in the oil I believe. :S Would an oil change will clear everything up?
    1979 Eleven Special - 26,000 miles.
  • manshack_one
    XStremely XSive
    • May 2007
    • 370
    • Crockett, TX

    #2
    You should look into why the gas ended up in the oil first. Most likely due to stuck floats or valves not shutting allowing the gas to make it's way into the oil. It's happened to me before because
    I had the floats set way too high and let them empty completely, then the float was stuck because the needle got wedged. I've always put a new filter on whenever I drain it because of that. I'm thinking though that if you drained everything, pulled the oil filter and drained that cup too, that you'd probably be ok considering the minute amount of gas on the filter. maybe even blow the filter out (messy idea I'm sure considering it's covered in oil/gas) but it saves buying a new one.

    I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the mods give me a thumbs up on my answer. Hopefully I've learned something in the past year since I started mechanic'ing on bikes for the first time.


    All things considered, you shouldn't have leaks even if you leave the petcocks on. the float needles (fingers crossed that's the right part) should seal and cut off the fuel even if you are running on prime, have an octopus, etc.
    79 Special Engine/80 Special Body - sold to bigray03

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    • psycoreefer
      XS-XJ Guru
      • Feb 2008
      • 1557
      • Minden, NV

      #3
      I'll second Manshack's answer. You should take a look at your float valves, they should stop the flow of gas even if you petcock leaks.

      As for changing the oil If you haven't run the bike the gas should only be in the pan and changing the oil should get all the gas out. If you've started the bike, or cranked it over with the starter then I'd pull the filter and dump that too. Once its been changed you should be good to go.
      1979 xs1100 Special -
      Stock air box/K&N Filter, MAC 4-2 exhaust, Bad-Boy Air horn, TC fuse box, Windshield, Soft bags, Vetter Fairing, Blinkers->Run/Turn/Brake Lights, Headlight Modulator, hard wire GPS power

      Short Stack - 1981 xs1100 Standard - lowered for SWMBO.

      Originally posted by fredintoon
      Goes like a train, corners like a cow, shifts like a Russian tractor, drinks like a fish, you are gonna love it.
      My Bike:
      [link is broken]

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      • firecrackerboom
        XSive
        • Jul 2007
        • 81
        • South Dakota

        #4
        Since I am in the process of moving from one town to another, my Clymer manual is 50 miles away. Does anybody have directions on how to change the oil on this thing?
        1979 Eleven Special - 26,000 miles.

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        • bikerphil
          Master of XSology
          • Jan 2008
          • 8636
          • South Flori-DUH

          #5
          oil change

          Here's the link to the service manual, scroll down to pg. 26.

          2H7 (79) owned since '89
          3H3 owned since '06

          "If it ain't broke, modify it"

          โ˜ฎ

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          • firecrackerboom
            XSive
            • Jul 2007
            • 81
            • South Dakota

            #6
            Here's an even more stupid question. How do you get the bike onto the center stand? I tried and tried, but it seems I am just not heavy enough / strong enough to force it back onto the centerstand.
            1979 Eleven Special - 26,000 miles.

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            • John
              XS-XJ Super Guru
              • Oct 2003
              • 5117

              #7
              Read this

              It may help.

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              • AlanB
                XSive Maximus
                • Oct 2006
                • 705
                • Scotland

                #8
                Hi FCB,

                It just needs practice and a spot of technique..... My Ex could put the eleven on the main stand; She is a skinny 4'10.....

                AlanB
                If it ain't broke, modify it!

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                • mbowld44
                  XSive
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 34
                  • Teignmouth Devon UK

                  #9
                  mainstand

                  Hi Alan

                  Wish I had known the technique, when my bike was a solo I never managed to raise it onto the mainstand .I enlisted the help of several of my friends but none of them succeeded on
                  their own.

                  Martin
                  goldfinger

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                  • egsols
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 1090
                    • Barrie, Ontario, Canada

                    #10
                    Like Alan said, it's all in the technique, I grab the left grip with my left hand, place my right hand on the seat rail and step on the centre stand with my right foot. I start to transfer all my weight to the centre stand, slighty leaning to the rear of the bike, while pulling up my right hand. The bike starts to rise and when I near the top I lean slightly back so as not to bang the bike too hard on the stand stop.

                    My Ex could put the eleven on the main stand; She is a skinny 4'10
                    Hey Alan, if I continually made my wife put my bike on it's centre stand we probably be X's too.
                    Ernie
                    79XS1100SF (no longer naked, now a bagger)
                    (Improving with age, the bike that is)

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                    • boyat68
                      XStremely XSive
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 358
                      • Virginia

                      #11
                      Hey Guys and (Gals)

                      No matter what is said it still is a chore to put the bike on the maintenance stand. Even though I have more bulk now than a few years ago (when ir seemed easier) It still takes a grunt from these old bones to do the deed.

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                      • egsols
                        XS-XJ Guru
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 1090
                        • Barrie, Ontario, Canada

                        #12
                        Bike is roughly 1/4 ton, I'm roughly 1/8th of a ton, centre stand in middle, all seems to balance.
                        Ernie
                        79XS1100SF (no longer naked, now a bagger)
                        (Improving with age, the bike that is)

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                        • John
                          XS-XJ Super Guru
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 5117

                          #13
                          Guys, you must be doing something wrong...I can get mine up (on the center stand) in less than two seconds...honest!

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                          • boyat68
                            XStremely XSive
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 358
                            • Virginia

                            #14
                            John:

                            How do you get to Carnegie Hall.

                            I don't practice very often A grunt and a prayer usually gets it up using your method.

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                            • wa407mpp
                              XSive Maximus
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 717

                              #15
                              With a full or near full tank of gas a bad petcock can easily over power a float valve. It doesn't have to be a hot day, the vibration of the engine running or movement of the bike can cause the gas to expand and build pressure in the tank, which can't be vented fast enough by the cap vent, to prevent it from overpowering a weak petcock spring, or worn petcock seal.
                              Fastmover
                              "Just plant us in the damn garden with the stupid
                              lion". SHL
                              78 XS1100e

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