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    Hello there everyone. My name is Tim, and I'm an old bikeaholic.

    It has been less than a day since my last ride.

    Okay, joking aside. I just purchased a 1980 XS1100G, and am in the process of getting it road-ready.

    The first issue I have is the rear brake. When I purchases it, the rear line was pulled out of the banjo, and I knew that was bad news. However, I pulled the caliper today to look, and saw that the piston is completely rusted in there, and the top of the piston is broken.

    So....that's where I'm at. Anyone have a piston or complete rear caliper that they can impart to a pretty cash-challenged owner of old bikes?

    And if you are wondering, my other bike is a completely stock 1972 CB750K2 with just under 20,000 miles.

    Hey, like I told my wife....at least I bought a new(er) bike. :-)

    Tim

  • #2
    There is a member in your neck of the woods named andreashweiss, and he sells a lot of parts for these bikes. Look up his username, or look for his ad in the Buy, Sell, trade forum. He will probably have one.

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    • #3
      You can get the pistons from Partsnmore.com. Minimum order of $35 though.

      But yeah, Adreas is the best choice around here for used parts besides Ebay.


      Tod
      Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

      You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

      Current bikes:
      '06 Suzuki DR650
      *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
      '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
      '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
      '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
      '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
      '81 XS1100 Special
      '81 YZ250
      '80 XS850 Special
      '80 XR100
      *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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      • #4
        Well, I found out that the broken part was somewhere between my ears. I was so irritated with the PO that I failed to notice the "broken" piece of piston was actually some foreign piece of metal lodged in the open end of the piston.

        At least I THINK the piston comes out of the caliper open end first? I can see the closed end of the piston in the caliper still, so I think I just need to somehow work that thing out, clean it all up and see if it is (by some miracle) still usable.

        Am I missing anything here?

        Tim

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        • #5
          Use the master cyl. and brake fluid to "pump" the piston out. Once you have it out, you can clean everything up. The piston just needs to be smooth, as the seal on the inside end does all the "work" of keeping the fluid. The inside bore of the caliper MUST be VERY SMOOTH, as it is the other side of the seal.
          Look at the "tech tips" from the home page, and you will find the directions for cleaning and rebuilding the caliper and master cyl.
          Ray Matteis
          KE6NHG
          XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
          XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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          • #6
            Hi Tim,

            Piston IS open end out.

            The section of piston you see can be as ugly and rusty as it likes;... Only the section which slides through the seal needs to be good.

            To get the piston out, refit the line, bleed the brake, and use the master cylinder to pump it right out. be careful with the spilled fluid, it is a GREAT paintstripper......

            Blowing the piston out with high-pressure air converts your brake into a fairly efficient gun; don't do it!

            AlanB
            If it ain't broke, modify it!

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            • #7
              Check around on ebay. Sometimes you find SS pistons. I havn't seen any recently though
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              • #8
                As I said, I'm new to caliper work. Once I have the caliper removed, pads off, all I should have is:

                Boot retaining clip
                Boot
                Piston
                Piston seal (inside caliper)
                Caliper body
                pad screw
                bleeder

                Am I missing anything? I want to make sure all the parts are there before I try to resurrect this thing.

                Tim

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                • #9
                  Hello Tim, I see your in Salem also, I have a rear caliper that you can have if you need one. PM me and we'll see when we can get together.

                  Larry
                  Inventor of the YICS Eliminator. Want one? Get it here.
                  http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...399#post183399

                  If you're not riding, you're not living!
                  82 XJ1100
                  80 XS1100G (Project bike)
                  64 Yamaha YA-6
                  77 Suzuki TS-185

                  79 XS1100SF Built this one for a friend.
                  See it here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBYT4C9_6Ac

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                  • #10
                    Well, I am pretty sure I am going to need that caliper, as I haven't been able to get that piston to move AT ALL either by wrapping it and using channel locks, or by using compressed air.

                    I am going to try to use the brake system, but I have to get it all put together to do it. When I bought the bike, the rear brake line was pulled out of the banjo, the MC was empty, and one of the rear pads was missing (probably removed by the idiot PO due to the frozen caliper) so I don't have much hope for the caliper after it being open to the environment for only God knows how long.

                    Thanks for your help gents. Keep it coming!!

                    Tim

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                    • #11
                      Just so you can see what I am working with, here is a picture.



                      I hope this works, as I haven't posted pics in a while.

                      The wet look is due to the penetrating oil I applied to try to loosen things up.

                      Anyone have experience is resurrecting one this bad?

                      Tim
                      Last edited by Beav068; 05-21-2008, 09:40 AM.

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                      • #12
                        New caliper

                        http://www.mikesxs.net/mikesxs-chass...ategory_id=1.2

                        The XS650 caliper is the same as the rear caliper on the XS1100. There is a new one at the link above.
                        Marty (in Mississippi)
                        XS1100SG
                        XS650SK
                        XS650SH
                        XS650G
                        XS6502F
                        XS650E

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                        • #13
                          Well there you go...first pic post in a while and I managed to screw it up. This one will hopefully work.



                          Thanks for the info on the 650 caliper. I'll check it out.

                          Tim

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                          • #14
                            You might want to read this

                            If you want to remove the piston, try this. Look for the post from me.http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...caliper+piston

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                            • #15
                              Yuck!

                              Wow! That caliper looks REALLY bad! I'd spend the c note and get a new one from Mike'sXS or look for one on ebay. Seriously, be careful if you are trying to force it out with compressed air. You could seriously injure yourself when (if?) that thing lets loose!
                              Tim Ripley - Gaithersburg, MD
                              1981 XS1100 Special "Spoiled Rotten" Just sold - currently bikeless!!
                              23mm float height
                              120 main jets
                              42.5 pilot jets
                              drilled stock airbox with K&N
                              Jardine 4 to 1 Exhaust
                              spade fusebox
                              1st and 2nd gear fix

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