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  • #16
    Hey Rob,

    I remember folks doing flow tests with the OEM petcocks and tubes, and the tank flow was rather quick, much quicker, like being able to empty the tank in about 10-15 minutes, can't do that running WOT at 80+MPH for an hour! JAT!
    T.C.
    T. C. Gresham
    81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
    79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
    History shows again and again,
    How nature points out the folly of men!

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    • #17
      That's true TC but that's a open line onto the ground (into a fuel can I hope LOL ) with the fuel in the tank crating some pressure in addition to gravity feed. When forcing fuel through the float valve the valve will control the max flow rate that is achievable but to reach that max flow rate some pressure is required and the fuel in the tank and the lines creates that added pressure.
      Rob
      KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

      1978 XS1100E Modified
      1978 XS500E
      1979 XS1100F Restored
      1980 XS1100 SG
      1981 Suzuki GS1100
      1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
      1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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      • #18
        My LG is plumbed to where I can run off of either one or both petcocks. When running on one petcock I have no loss of power due to not enough fuel flow. It runs just fine at WOT or cruising in the upper RPM range for XStended periods on one petcock (1/4" fuel line).
        The LG has the 1196 big-bore kit and K&N filter in stock airbox.
        Pat Kelly
        <p-lkelly@sbcglobal.net>

        1978 XS1100E (The Force)
        1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
        2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
        1999 Suburban (The Ship)
        1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
        1968 F100 (Valentine)

        "No one is totally useless. They can always be used as a bad example"

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        • #19
          My calculator went missing

          but by mental arithmetic and rounding off the numbers (3 is easy to do, Pi is not ) ; the maximum fuel flow through the carbs has to be whatever amount can get through the four main jets. Say the hole through the main jet is 1mm diameter then the area of 4 of them = ~3 sq.mm. Fuel flows towards the carbs down a 3/16" (~5mm) diameter hose which has an area of ~15 sq.mm.
          Thus the fuel delivery available to the carbs down one fuel hose would appear to be ~5 times the maximum demand.
          Fred Hill, S'toon
          XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
          "The Flying Pumpkin"

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          • #20
            The numbers have spoken

            Thank you for doing the math Fred.

            I ran mine on just one petcock for many years. I did have both petcocks plumbed in, and I could choose either petcock to use, that way I didn't have trapped, unaccessable fuel in the tank. When my low fuel light came on, I would just open the second petcock and all the fuel was available.

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            • #21
              The jetting does indeed control how much fuel the engine will receive. There's no doubt about that. However if that was the only contributing factor there would be no reason to worry about how much fuel is in the bowl and the fuel level in the bowls would have no impact on how the engine runs. We know this is not true and fuel level in the bowl is a very important part of the whole setup. It only stands to reason that how much fuel is available to refill the bowls would therefore also be an important part of the set up. If it wasn't then all bikes regardless of engine size and carb set up would likely come with fuel lines of the same 3/8 inch size or whatever was the most compact. If fuel delivery to the bowls was not an issue then it would make no difference if the lines, petcock screens etc were not working properly and we also know this is not the case. We know that our engines will not run properly if 4/5 of the fuel flow is missing.
              Rob
              KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

              1978 XS1100E Modified
              1978 XS500E
              1979 XS1100F Restored
              1980 XS1100 SG
              1981 Suzuki GS1100
              1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
              1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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