Spiegler braided SS brakelines

[Bill]

Fellow XSives -

I was paging through the latest Motorcyclist magazine, found an ad for Spiegler brake lines, and went to their web site .

Spiegler Brakelines Motorcycle Page
I downloaded the .pdf file for Yamaha brake lines which included XS1100 models. Here's the portion with the XS1100 listings:



Spiegler is a German company with a US distributor, which may account for their not having listings for US model XS1100s. First is the 2H9, which was the European 1978-79 Standard (according to the XS11.COM serial numbers page). Though not identical to the US XS1100 Standard, my guess is that they would fit.

Second is a 5K7, for which I can't find a reference. Anybody know about this one?

These might be a reasonable alternative to other brake lines currently available for our bikes. On their Motorcycle Page they also state that they will make custom lines, but I imagine they'd be pricier. For further information, go to the page listed above or contact them at:

Spiegler Brake Systems USA
94 A Westpark Road
Dayton, Ohio 45459
WWW: http://www.spieglerusa.com/
Phone: 937-291-1735
Fax: 937-291-2368
e-mail: mail@spieglerusa.com

Usual disclaimers apply. I know nothing of this company nor its products. Just passing along information, etc.

[chopper]

hi bill,"5k7 is the prefix for xs1.1s why not just make your own lines up? its not difficult to do

[Bill]

Chopper wrote:

"5k7" is the prefix for xs1.1s

Thank you! That piece of info is missing from the XS11.COM specifications page. Maybe one of the administrators can update that.

why not just make your own lines up? its not difficult to do

Most of my bikes already have SS lines. I know that the local auto supply places will make rubber lines, but I don't know if they have banjo fittings or if they do braided.

I've seen DIY braided lines done with a compression fit banjos, but I don't know of a supplier. Anything you could share on this topic (DIY brake lines) would be of interest to lots of XSives.

Thanks for the info!

[chopper]

most braided lines are compression fit,you buy a length of hose cut to size push nut on hose ,spread the braiding open fit a brass olive then the banjo tighten,then repeat at other end. for suppliers try goodrige or any industrial hose manufacturer/dealer its easy to get and much cheaper than a kit

[Dragonrider]

Russel makes lengths of stainless braided lines (with a clear coat too) and these have fittings to add their banjos to them. The banjos are available in a couple sizes (I believe ours are 10mm) and with different bends on the hookup part (0 degree, 15? and 30? degree).

The lines come in increments of 1".

Any motorcycle shop can get these for you. They order them out of the performance catalogues.

I have used them and they are very high quality and look good too. Easy to do. Cost about $90 to do my friend's 'wing (in this case we ran full length lines from each front caliper all the way to the MC due to the messed up crossover on those wings).

DO NOT order the premade for your bike Russel lines. They will never ever come.

All the lines/fittings for the assemble them yourself lines are in stock in the warehouse and delivered in a few days.

As I said, these are very high quality lines, and also bear the DOT approval too.

No connection yada yada . . .

[NOMAD]

I just put a set ( both lowers & one upper) on the front of my '80 XS1100SG. I got them from my local YAMAHA shop for about $85. They were vynyl coated Russell's with seperate banjo ends. (straight and 15 degree) They fit like a glove and look great, too. Couldn't be much happier.

NOMAD

[Robert Haller]

Originally posted by NOMAD
I just put a set ( both lowers & one upper) on the front of my '80 XS1100SG. I got them from my local YAMAHA shop for about $85. They were vynyl coated Russell's with seperate banjo ends. (straight and 15 degree) They fit like a glove and look great, too. Couldn't be much happier.

NOMAD

What specifically did you order (lengths, type, banjo ends)? Since it worked perfectly for you I would like to follow your lead.

[NOMAD]

Robert Haller,

I used a 21" on the upper and (2) 18" on the lowers. You might not want that long on the upper, I have a custom roadster screen that I needed to get around the brackets. You could probably use a 19" for the upper if you're not winding around any brackets. I used one 15 degree and one straight banjo fitting on each line and it seemed to work out great. If you look at your original lines before you take them off you can see how they are positioned. If I can be of any more help just holler.

NOMAD

[Snow]

Just so I make sure I have this right, if I wanted to replace my front lines with a dual-line configuration (both calipers feeding directly off a dual banjo bolt at the master cylinder), all I would need is:

2 38" Universal Russell lines (R58142S)
1 10mm Dual banjo bolt (R40507-10mm x 1.0)
4 Banjos 35° flare (R4050C)
2 Banjo bolts for calipers (R40506)
4 10mm crush washers (R49005 - ten pack)

Am I missing anything?

Btw, here is where I got the part numbers:


Russell Univerisal Lines

Russell Adapters for Universal bike lines

[Snow]

Front brakeline parts prices from Flanderscompany.com website, current as of today (05/21/2003):

2 38" Universal Russell lines (R58142S) 33.95 each
1 10mm Dual banjo bolt (R40507-10mm x 1.0) 6.95 each
4 Banjos 35° flare (R4050C) 8.95 each
4 10mm crush washers (R49005 - ten pack) 3.95 pack

Total w/o tax or shipping: 114.60

I should probably double check with a measuring device to make sure 38" will be good...

[CA.XSer]

I should probably double check with a measuring device to make sure 38" will be good...

Snow

I just put front lines on my 78E but can't remember what length of lines I used. I will check tonight when I get home. Also I used the banjo bolt from the bottom 2 lines that goes to the block by the triple tree. It is made for 2 lines.

[Snow]

I was thinking that if I was going to put all these new brake parts on, might as well make it all new I got kinda impatient and kept thinking about how when I pull my brake lever, I just wait for the ride to slow down and have had a couple near misses lately...so I ordered through my local mc shop about 30 minutes ago... I sure hope I got the right things

[CA.XSer]

I just put front lines on my 78E but can't remember what length of lines I used. I will check tonight when I get home. Also I used the banjo bolt from the bottom 2 lines that goes to the block by the triple tree. It is made for 2 lines

Snow

I used 38" lines.

[Snow]

Thanks CA.XSer, I feel much more at ease now that I am pretty sure I didn't waste my money by ordering the wrong parts

[Snow]

Wow, am I suprised - my bike shop got the parts in today! Here's a couple pics:







Tonight, I get to put this babies on