Jardines

[crazypainter]

Where is the best place to get Jardine headers and do they come in black? finally starting to get my 81MNS back on the road.

[TopCatGr58]

Hey CrazyPainter,

Things may have just turned for the worse!

I went to their web site, www.jardineproducts.com and first did a search for systems by inputting year/make/and the only models that they allowed a choice for were the 81 VIRAGOS!

It's 2008, but their downloadable catalog is still the 2006 version, and in it they still show systems, the 4:1's only, no 4:2 systems, for the XS11, both in Fully chrome, as well as black headers with aluminum muffler. BUT being a 2 year old catalog, it may have finally been discontinued!

I wrote them a message inquiring about whether they still make systems for the 78-81 XS11's or not, will wait to see what they say and report back here!

SO...either Ebay, or possibly finding some NOS in some shops somewhere may be your only choices for Jardines. The 4:1 systems they offered were NOT the spaghetti styled crossed headers anyways!

IIRC, MAC was still offering the systems, in BLACK headers with chrome mufflers, but 4:1 systems, no 4:2!

IF you have a set of pipes, but they are not pristine, you might do better sending them to JETHOT COATINGS for their black ceramic coating!?
T.C.

PS: Jardine system info #'s for searches:
14-2403-01 4:1 Megaphone Chrome
14-2403-03 4:1 Black headers, aluminum oval shell/satin
14-2202-01 Chrome Flared Steel Slip on Muffler not Maxim.

[bikerphil]

Dennis Kirk P/N 25227 Black Jardine header 4-1. 1 in stock. A bit pricey!

[TopCatGr58]

I just did a NET search for "jardine 14-2403-03", and found ONLY 2 sites that say they have them for sale, both a bit over $400.00 for a complete set, but folks feel Jardines are much better than MAC!? YMMV!
T.C.

[crazypainter]

I went to the Jardine site and under classics it listed 78-80 XS's standard and specials but no listing for the 81. Is there any difference?

[Dennyz]

The 14-2403-03 fits the Special (all years) pretty nicely, but not so the Standards.

Here is a link to what I documented 9 years ago when I purchased the 4:1 system for my "F".

Jardine 4:1 (Painted)

At the time I was not very impressed with the fit. As my exhaust system evolved, I came to really like the Jardine (except the muffler).

I now run it with an R1 can (with much modifications).

[GNEPIG]

https://home.comcast.net/~denny.zand...ine/bpipe.html
I have one of these also= it was a huge pain in the Clackers to assemble, I had to heat and beat to get it to fit on my Standard. I don't care for the sound either= loud and raspy. But I have heard that it makes great power. I have never ridden this bike with this exhaust on it, I only started it and wrapped the throttle a couple of times, then let it sit for the past 4 years.
I also have the R1 can on a Mac header= I like that one way better (great power and sounds quiet).
Altho this subject seems to have been "beat to death", there might be some useful information in this thread: Dyno Results
http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread...t=dyno+results

Damn, I like Denny's bike, check out those rearsets.

[TopCatGr58]

Here's the OFFICIAL WORD from JARDINE!

Hey folks,

I got a reply back from Jardine today, and it's like I thought, read it and weep!

From:Ashley Webb awebb(AT)jardineproducts.com
Date:Wednesday, February 6, 2008 7:42 PM
To:topcatgr(AT)cox.net

Jardine exhaust Yam 78-81 XS 1100

Curtis,

Unfortunately we have discontinued the exhaust for these bikes and they are no longer available.

Thank you,

Ashley Webb
Jardine Performance Products
1180 W. Railroad St.
Corona, CA 92882
(951) 739-5900 ext. 220
awebb(AT)jardineproducts.com

[crazypainter]

That's regrettable. Do the Macs have a 4 into 1?

[John]

Yes they do. You can always find new ones on sale on ebay.

[crazypainter]

Just went to Dennis Kirk, they had 3 sets of the black 4 into 1, closeout price of 292. They've been ordered. Thanks for all the help and replies. You guys are great on here!

[Dennyz]

"Just went to Dennis Kirk, they had 3 sets of the black 4 into 1, closeout price of 292."

I just ordered one of them for my project bike (2 left).

[DeanR]

These aren't the spaghetti pipes are they? I believe those are Jardines? or are you guy talking about Macs at Dennis Kirk?

[TopCatGr58]

Sorry Dean,

These are just the basic 4-1's, they don't even have the Spaghetti pipes systems in their OLD catalog for our machines, only for Honda!
T.C.

[TucmanXJ]

Gazelle exhausts

I believe Gazelle in UK still makes an XS11 Standard stainless steel exhaust with 4-2 setup, dunno their price.

http://www.gazbike.demon.co.uk/offic...otorcycles.htm

RJ