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  • rizzo4u2
    XSive
    • Nov 2007
    • 49
    • hanover,pa.

    #1

    3pipes hot,one not

    number 2 cylinder not firing as hot as the others, sprayed each cylinder with a shot of water after running for 30.min, no1 ,no3, no4pipes burnt the shot quickley, no 2 sprayed and then burnt off slowley, checked the coils , all are firing, no 2 is running a lot colder than the others, any ideas
    Last edited by rizzo4u2; 01-06-2008, 05:37 PM.
    mike.s
  • Ken Talbot
    XS-XJ Super Guru
    • Jun 2002
    • 4251
    • Revelstoke, BC

    #2
    Carb #2 is not delivering any fuel to its cylinder. Most likely, that carb needs a good cleaning, then you will want to do a proper sync to get them all running the same. Have a look in the technical articles and you'll find lots of good info about cleaning your carbs. For even more, use the phrase 'triple clean' in the search button at the top of the page.
    Ken Talbot

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    • prometheus578
      XS-XJ Super Guru (RESIGNED)
      • Aug 2004
      • 4012
      • Olympia , Wa.

      #3
      "Ken knows of which he speaks."

      I'll only add that if #2 is like that, the others are getting there, too. Clean 'em all.
      "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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      • rizzo4u2
        XSive
        • Nov 2007
        • 49
        • hanover,pa.

        #4
        i did have the carbs off back about 2 months ago ,the bike has not bin ridden much do to fixing other problems, now that they have been resolved now this, i will pull the carbs back off and check no.2 ,everything else seems fine on the others , and the pipes are sizzeling, hot, thanks guys, anything i should look for............
        mike.s

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        • Czekus21
          XS-XJ Guru
          • May 2004
          • 1068
          • Keosauqua (Southeast) Iowa

          #5
          XScuse me while I chime to the list. The notorious three time cleaning. After you pull them again and clean them, reinstall em, Sync em, Ya might need to do it all over again. These carbs are notorious for the 3rd time right cleanings. Do a post search and many time over, you'll read the same info about 3rd time right.
          Just a 2 cent chime... Now,,, Back to the show....
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          • mason79
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Mar 2006
            • 1351
            • los angeles, ca

            #6
            if i don't ride mine for a while, ( and i do that alot ) it does the same thing, but not with any particular cylinder, it could be random,


            i found that the plugs would foul in a hurry if that jug is not firing,
            after cleaning the plug or putting in a new one i i let it run on 3 or 2 or what ever,


            the heat from the firing cylinders would create warm enuff conditions for the weak non-firing cylinder to catch, i guess it would be hard to start when cold, but now that it's hot, but the surrounding engine, well... different story?


            then i run the crap out of it to blow out the engine, kinda like voodoo mechanics.

            this has saved me from dismantling the carbs, anything but that....


            worked for me
            "a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
            History
            85 Yamaha FJ 1100
            79 yamaha xs1100f
            03 honda cbr 600 f4
            91 yamaha fzr 600
            84 yamaha fj 1100
            82 yamaha seca 750
            87 yamaha fazer
            86 yamaha maxim x
            82 yamaha vision
            78 yamaha rd 400

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            • rizzo4u2
              XSive
              • Nov 2007
              • 49
              • hanover,pa.

              #7
              the plugs are all firing fine, i opened the bowls up today found nothing wrong as i can see, there clean, all bowls are full of fuel, now what.......
              Last edited by rizzo4u2; 01-08-2008, 09:47 AM.
              mike.s

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              • skids
                XS-XJ Super Guru
                • Jul 2002
                • 5047
                • Florissant, CO, USA

                #8
                If you warm the engine ane then twist the throttle to 2000 rpms, does the pipe suddenly start getting hot? I had one that was giving me fits until I found an air leak at the manifold boot/head contact. It really helps to color a set of plugs to see richness at idle, but it would help to get the engine good and hot before you swap for the new plugs.

                Originally posted by rizzo4u2
                the plugs are all firing fine, i opened the bowls up today found nothing wrong as i can see, there clean, all bowls are full of fuel, now what.......
                Skids (Sid Hansen)

                Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                • mro
                  XS-XJ Super Guru
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 4276
                  • Hayward, California

                  #9
                  air leak at the manifold boot/head contact

                  Would also check that the vac cap(s) on the boots not leaking.
                  Can be deceptive.
                  Can swap plug into another cylinder to see if plug is failing under load...


                  mro

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                  • mason79
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 1351
                    • los angeles, ca

                    #10
                    mine was firing fine outside as well ,in a compression enviroment the spark was not enough, if the plug is wet with gas you have flooded it if it is dry, well.....starter fluid?
                    "a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
                    History
                    85 Yamaha FJ 1100
                    79 yamaha xs1100f
                    03 honda cbr 600 f4
                    91 yamaha fzr 600
                    84 yamaha fj 1100
                    82 yamaha seca 750
                    87 yamaha fazer
                    86 yamaha maxim x
                    82 yamaha vision
                    78 yamaha rd 400

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                    • rizzo4u2
                      XSive
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 49
                      • hanover,pa.

                      #11
                      problems getting better

                      noticed that number 2 cylinder plug was black, replaced with a new one ran alot better, still as not hot as the others, i was going to put gas filters inline to help the dirt from getting into the carbs, whats a decent gas filter to use, thanks guys.....
                      mike.s

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                      • mro
                        XS-XJ Super Guru
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 4276
                        • Hayward, California

                        #12
                        whats a decent gas filter to use

                        Cheep...
                        ones with paper filter seem to filter a little better.


                        mro

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                        • mason79
                          XS-XJ Guru
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 1351
                          • los angeles, ca

                          #13
                          it's so tight in there, almost anything that fits, would be better than nothing, i teed both into one bigger filter, and the crap it filters... well you know....
                          "a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
                          History
                          85 Yamaha FJ 1100
                          79 yamaha xs1100f
                          03 honda cbr 600 f4
                          91 yamaha fzr 600
                          84 yamaha fj 1100
                          82 yamaha seca 750
                          87 yamaha fazer
                          86 yamaha maxim x
                          82 yamaha vision
                          78 yamaha rd 400

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                          • firecrackerboom
                            XSive
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 81
                            • South Dakota

                            #14
                            I was just seeing what would happen if i took off a spark plug wire one at a time, and when i take off the furthest right one, it didn't do anything to the engine RPMs. If i took off the far left one it pretty much died. Any suggestions?
                            1979 Eleven Special - 26,000 miles.

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                            • AlanB
                              XSive Maximus
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 705
                              • Scotland

                              #15
                              Hi FCB,

                              It means that No4 isn't running. Chances are that the pipe will be a lot cooler than the rest. Spritz water on it.... don't stick a hand on it!

                              It isn't the coil 'cos the other cylinder fired by the coil is OK.

                              All the info you need is in V. recent posts.........

                              AlanB
                              If it ain't broke, modify it!

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