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  • #16
    The dip

    Hi Van,
    immersion type carb cleaners are the best there is for cleaning metal parts. Thing is, most of them dissolve rubber parts. "The dip" can't tell the difference between the rubber dust particles bunging up the carbs internal passages which need to be dissolved and the rubber carb parts which need to remain undamaged. OK you can remove the rubber parts EXCEPT that to remove the butterfly shaft seals you have to dismantle the butterflys and that's a right swine to do as the screws are staked over on assembly. I have "gotten away with" dipping my carb bodies for no more than an hour or two, shaft seals and all, but I cannot recommend that you try it.
    Fred Hill, S'toon
    XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
    "The Flying Pumpkin"

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    • #17
      "Always another way."

      I've "dipped' banks of carbs without removing the butterfly seals.
      Get a shallow pan to set the carbs in and then fill it to a level below the seals with "dipping carb cleaner".
      The carbs can be rotated to other positions, adjust the level of cleaner as needed.
      I've also plugged various exit holes, and used an eye dropper to fill the passages that I wanted cleaned.
      Use safety glasses when dealing with this stuff. Carb spray only stings your eyes... this "dip" stuff burns.
      "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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      • #18
        Re: You bought what?

        Originally posted by fredintoon
        "The new 08 Honda Rebel I got my wife was $3000 and can barely get up to 85 mph."

        Hi Van,
        you actually went out and bought a new Honda Rebel? And nobody was holding a gun to your head? Remember Bill Cosby?
        "Was your brain actually with you today?"
        Fred,
        I smell what your baking, Sniff sniff...what's burning?.
        I did try looking for a used Rebel but every late model Rebel that I looked at was boogered up in some way. Most of the time the tank was dented due to a wipe out. The owners of these dinged up bikes (usually 2 to 3 years old) wanted 80% to 90% of what a new bike would cost. I simply will not pay that kind of money for a used bike when I can get a new one with a warranty for almost the same price as a new bike.
        Another example: A friend at work put me in contact with an owner of a 2 year old Rebel. He wanted more money than what I got for a new one.

        The Rebel is My wife's bike and I wanted her to have a bike that is in good shape.
        You may think that I made a bad decision but that's your opinion. I know that I did my home work and got the best deal for a new (and used) bike.
        So, in answer to your question, Yes.

        Van
        03 Honda GL1800 Goldwing; 08 Honda 250 Rebel; 1979 Yamaha XS1100SF.

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        • #19
          "I did try looking for a used Rebel - - - "
          Hi Van,
          perhaps you misunderstand me. To buy a new machine rather than buy the same model used and dented and without a warranty at 90% of new cost is a sound decision. To buy a Honda 250cc Rebel at all is what I question. That machine has nothing whatsoever to recommend it except a low seat height. It don't go, it don't stop and it wallows & scrapes on corners. I concede that it's quite reliable.
          Fred Hill, S'toon
          XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
          "The Flying Pumpkin"

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          • #20
            Originally posted by fredintoon To buy a Honda 250cc Rebel at all is what I question. [/B]
            My wife wanted to learn how to ride. The rebel has one of the most liberal clutches making it easy to learn, It has a better turnig radias than most bikes. Oh yeah, 100 mpg.
            Very good reasons in my book.

            Yeah it's not going to win any world records today. Some would call me crazy, even accuse me of waisting my time and money on a wretched old out dated piece of poop like the XS11 (thought I was still talking about the Rebel?) rather than getting a newer bike.



            Van
            Last edited by van; 11-23-2007, 11:11 AM.
            03 Honda GL1800 Goldwing; 08 Honda 250 Rebel; 1979 Yamaha XS1100SF.

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            • #21
              My wife wanted to learn how to ride. The rebel has one of the most liberal clutches m

              Hi Van,
              I guess with it being a half-century since I learned how to work a clutch I'd forgotten how difficult it is for a beginner to learn.
              OK, easy clutch trumps insipid performance for a beginners bike, you done good.
              I do remember my youngest boy operating his first dirt bike that had a real clutch rather than the centrifugal thing. I thought (as he missed the family car by perhaps an inch) he'd never learn the difference between a clutch and an on/off switch.
              Fred Hill, S'toon
              XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
              "The Flying Pumpkin"

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              • #22
                " - - wasting my time and money on a wretched old out dated piece of poop like the XS11"

                Hi Van,
                true enough. But once yours is running you will have to admit, it goes like poop off a red hot shovel.
                Fred Hill, S'toon
                XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                • #23
                  I almost got my wife one for the same reason.

                  Originally posted by van
                  [B]My wife wanted to learn how to ride. B]
                  Skids (Sid Hansen)

                  Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by fredintoon
                    " - - wasting my time and money on a wretched old out dated piece of poop like the XS11"

                    Hi Van,
                    true enough. But once yours is running you will have to admit, it goes like poop off a red hot shovel.
                    Fred,

                    No doubt, I love to ride any and all bikes. I hate driving. That's why I made the decision to ride all year round 2 years ago. At work I'm call "Hero", "The hell or High Water rider", Crazy.......
                    The list of names is long and changes daily as the weather changes.
                    As a kid I remember my first bike (a CB125). It was sooooooo easy to ride. I jumped on that puppy, took off and never looked back. I'm hoping that my wife has a similar experience and picks up things as fast as I did.
                    As for the XS11, I'm loving the idea of getting it. It's like getting a classic muscle car but cheaper, faster and more fun.
                    When I was in high school, the KZ 1000 and the XS 1100 were the big bore bad boys of the day.
                    The XS11 reminds me of my youth. So, to some degree, I do understand why the XS'rs love this bike so much. And to get one for $500, even better.
                    Red Hot Shovel...That sounds like a great name for the bike!

                    Thanks

                    Van
                    03 Honda GL1800 Goldwing; 08 Honda 250 Rebel; 1979 Yamaha XS1100SF.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by skids
                      I almost got my wife one for the same reason.

                      Almost?
                      So what happened

                      Van
                      03 Honda GL1800 Goldwing; 08 Honda 250 Rebel; 1979 Yamaha XS1100SF.

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                      • #26
                        She got a Yamaha Radian and kept it for a few years. It looks like an xs11, only smaller. After a while, I was the only one riding it (it was a fun little bike), so I sold it. It was just 4 more carbs to maintain...

                        Originally posted by van

                        Almost?
                        So what happened

                        Van
                        Skids (Sid Hansen)

                        Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                        • #27
                          if someone has their heart set on a rebel look for a 450. same looks, different bike . when i was teaching MSF i had to wrench both bikes.world of difference between them.
                          fly

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by fly
                            if someone has their heart set on a rebel look for a 450. same looks, different bike . when i was teaching MSF i had to wrench both bikes.world of difference between them.
                            fly
                            I wanted to get my wife a KN 500 but she had other plans.
                            03 Honda GL1800 Goldwing; 08 Honda 250 Rebel; 1979 Yamaha XS1100SF.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by skids
                              She got a Yamaha Radian and kept it for a few years. It looks like an xs11, only smaller. After a while, I was the only one riding it (it was a fun little bike), so I sold it. It was just 4 more carbs to maintain...

                              A guy at work has one of those bikes.
                              It seems like a good bike.

                              Van
                              03 Honda GL1800 Goldwing; 08 Honda 250 Rebel; 1979 Yamaha XS1100SF.

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