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    I have been having problems for a while getting my XJ11 to idle well. I have been through the carbs and cleaned and replaced all the guts. I then built the YICS tool to the measurments in the diagrams I found. After several attempts to sync the carbs it wasn't any better. I made another attempt yesterday , but still the same. All the intake pressures read the same and still a bad idle. I held the YICS tool to the head of a spare engine and noticed that the tool will not seal the passage between # 3 and 4 cylinders. Could this be the cause of my sync problems. I modified the tool length to seal each passage and tried again. WOW what a difference, nice and smooth idle now. Has anybody else had the same problem with their XJ11 while using the YICS tool built from the plans? Is this tool supost to work on all YICS engines? Or are they specific to each enging size?
    Slow down and enjoy life. If you are in that much of a hurry, you should have left eariler.
    Current rides:
    80 XS1100SG
    82 JX1100
    83 Venture Royale
    86 V-Max

  • #2
    Things like this is why I plugged off the YICS ports in my head. You could have one fairly bad carb, and the rest would be picking up the work for you with slight decreases in performance over time.

    I bought all the stuff to make one of these tools, but never actually had to use it since I did the above mentioned mod. I'm glad you got it figured out.

    Tod
    Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

    You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

    Current bikes:
    '06 Suzuki DR650
    *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
    '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
    '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
    '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
    '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
    '81 XS1100 Special
    '81 YZ250
    '80 XS850 Special
    '80 XR100
    *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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    • #3
      Can you plug the ports without taking the engine apart? Tell me how you did it. This is the only YICS bike I have, I have never had any problems with the other XS11, they don't have the YICS.
      Slow down and enjoy life. If you are in that much of a hurry, you should have left eariler.
      Current rides:
      80 XS1100SG
      82 JX1100
      83 Venture Royale
      86 V-Max

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      • #4
        I've had the same problem. what mods did you make? did you make the rubber pieces longer?
        XJ1100J;
        Hooker 4 Into 1 with Supper Trapp baffles,12discs
        K&N Pods
        125 Mains
        50 Pilot Jets
        SS Brake Lines
        Metzler Marathon tires
        180 pilot air jets
        Barnet clutch, Heavy duty springs
        Dyno 82 hp

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mlew
          Can you plug the ports without taking the engine apart?
          Sorry, no. With the head off, you can tap the gallery holes and seal them off with some screws.
          Ken Talbot

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          • #6
            Thanks Ken
            I may tackle that if I ever have to take the engine apart. with only 16k miles I hope it will be a long time.

            Hey heatmanal
            Build the YICS tool just like the drawings shows, but change the two 4 1/4 " tubes to 4" and 6". Put the 6" piece at the end that goes in the head first. That should seal off all the passages. It worked for me.
            Good luck.
            Mark
            Slow down and enjoy life. If you are in that much of a hurry, you should have left eariler.
            Current rides:
            80 XS1100SG
            82 JX1100
            83 Venture Royale
            86 V-Max

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            • #7
              I had a similar problem and altered the YICS tool to match my port dimensions. using a stiff wire with a small bend in the end I could measure when the bend fell into a port.
              I have a theory that because the factory plugged the idle screws they had a way to adjust individual carbs for their particular flow rates, that done they plugged the screws. However the carbs still needed sync, so the YICS tool was created.
              From my perspective the color tune would be done without the YICS tool installed. That done the YICS tools is then inserted for sync.
              WHAT SAY YOU GURU'S
              dELL82
              Dell82
              Houston, TX
              82' XJ1100J Maxim "LASERMAX"
              SOLD 86' Kawasaki Voyager XII, 1200cc SOLD
              SOLD 82' CB450SC Nighthawk, FOR SALE SOLD
              SOLD 82' CB450SC Nighthawk, parts bike SOLD

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              • #8
                Doing a colortune without the YICS tool installed would be no different than trying to synch the carbs without it. You could get a good reading on the colortune, but could actually have a cylinder running really rich or lean and depending/drawing air from another cylinder to make up for it.

                The YICS is kind of a crutch. It helps a cylinder lean on the others when it isn't doing too well. Spread this help out over 3 other cylinders, and one can get pretty crummy before you realize it.

                Any tuning on any of the cylinders would require you to individualize it with the YICS tool.

                Of course... I've been known to be wrong!


                Tod
                Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                Current bikes:
                '06 Suzuki DR650
                *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                '81 XS1100 Special
                '81 YZ250
                '80 XS850 Special
                '80 XR100
                *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                • #9
                  Thanks Tod, guess my thinking was in err
                  Dell82
                  Houston, TX
                  82' XJ1100J Maxim "LASERMAX"
                  SOLD 86' Kawasaki Voyager XII, 1200cc SOLD
                  SOLD 82' CB450SC Nighthawk, FOR SALE SOLD
                  SOLD 82' CB450SC Nighthawk, parts bike SOLD

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                  • #10
                    LOL.. Not necessarily. Like I said... I've been known to be wrong a lot. I don't know this for a fact... just the way it would seem to me.




                    Tod
                    Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                    You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                    Current bikes:
                    '06 Suzuki DR650
                    *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                    '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                    '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                    '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                    '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                    '81 XS1100 Special
                    '81 YZ250
                    '80 XS850 Special
                    '80 XR100
                    *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                    • #11
                      thanks mlew I did the same thing you did cleaned & recleaned the carbs still idle'd bad. I'll try your mod. this weekend.
                      XJ1100J;
                      Hooker 4 Into 1 with Supper Trapp baffles,12discs
                      K&N Pods
                      125 Mains
                      50 Pilot Jets
                      SS Brake Lines
                      Metzler Marathon tires
                      180 pilot air jets
                      Barnet clutch, Heavy duty springs
                      Dyno 82 hp

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        heatmanal and mlew, Have you guys checked the boots on the carbs, the ones between the carb and engine? Could be one or more are leaking. Use an engine starter, either, or UNLIT propane torch and spray around the boots while idling. If engine starts to run higher there is a leak. fix by cleaning very well with acetone or and alcohol then paint with black RTV using an acid brush. Worked on mine and helps keep the boots from UV light.
                        Jeff Covington found at the NTCC that the little boots on the vacuum ports, on the same carb boots above, were hard and leaking. Replaced with Auto Zone vacuum caps, whistle and leak went away.
                        Dell82
                        Dell82
                        Houston, TX
                        82' XJ1100J Maxim "LASERMAX"
                        SOLD 86' Kawasaki Voyager XII, 1200cc SOLD
                        SOLD 82' CB450SC Nighthawk, FOR SALE SOLD
                        SOLD 82' CB450SC Nighthawk, parts bike SOLD

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                        • #13
                          Hey Dell82
                          I replaced my intake boots last year because they leaked, put on new caps also. I had tried silicone on them but they were to far gone.
                          Slow down and enjoy life. If you are in that much of a hurry, you should have left eariler.
                          Current rides:
                          80 XS1100SG
                          82 JX1100
                          83 Venture Royale
                          86 V-Max

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                          • #14
                            Well eliminated one more source. Keep going eventually it will come.
                            Dell82
                            Dell82
                            Houston, TX
                            82' XJ1100J Maxim "LASERMAX"
                            SOLD 86' Kawasaki Voyager XII, 1200cc SOLD
                            SOLD 82' CB450SC Nighthawk, FOR SALE SOLD
                            SOLD 82' CB450SC Nighthawk, parts bike SOLD

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