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    WooHoo!!! I got my 79 XS1100SF to start. This bike has been stitting since 1992. Before starting it I did the following:
    New Battery (of course)
    Changed the Oil
    Installed new plugs
    rebuilt the carbs (bike was parked with fuel in it. The carbs were stuck shut)

    So, I got it all back together and after several tries it fired up but....It was blowing smoke like a steel mill. I let it run for a few minutes before without revving over 3k but the smoke continued. The smoke was white and had a lovely oily smell. So, my question is do I just let it run for a while and see if it stops? Or do I assume that there is more wrong and I need to rebuild the engine? To the best of my knowledge the bike was running fine when it was parked.

    My other thought it that I may have put to much oil in. The sight glass is pretty cloudy so I really can't tell how much is in there. I put in close to 4 qts which is probably a qt to much.
    1979 XS11SF (Shiny Red Sled)
    1982 XJ11 (winter project- Black Beauty)
    1992 XT225 (yard sale find)

    Decide-Commit-Succeed

  • #2
    Hi Tomateo,
    it's a fair to good chance that it's just the oil rings stuck down in their grooves after sitting so long and that simply running the bike will free them up. So yeah, just run her a while. I have never used the product myself but there are those on this list who claim that Seafoam will cure warts and raise the dead let alone fix your engine. I'd check out their website and see what they say about dumping some into your engine oil.
    Fred Hill, S'toon
    XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
    "The Flying Pumpkin"

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    • #3
      "I agree with Fred."

      Let her run for a while.
      All the bikes I've resurrected smoke fer a spell.
      Might take a hunnerd' miles or so, but should clear up eventually.
      It's too early to tell if you have engine problems, but I don't think that you will.
      "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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      • #4
        then after that hundres, check the compression to satisfy your curiosity
        "a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
        History
        85 Yamaha FJ 1100
        79 yamaha xs1100f
        03 honda cbr 600 f4
        91 yamaha fzr 600
        84 yamaha fj 1100
        82 yamaha seca 750
        87 yamaha fazer
        86 yamaha maxim x
        82 yamaha vision
        78 yamaha rd 400

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        • #5
          wat the boys said above.

          when u have the motor running are there any
          noises coming from it?
          pete


          new owner of
          08 gen2 hayabusa


          former owner
          1981 xs1100 RH (aus) (5N5)
          zrx carbs
          18mm float height
          145 main jets
          38 pilots
          slide needle shimmed .5mm washer
          fitted with v/stax and uni pod filters

          [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pA8dwxmAVA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url]

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          • #6
            White smoke is likely going to correct its self with use. Run it like your breaking it in again until the rings are re-seated and free in their groves. Blue smoke however is not a good thing.
            Rob
            KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

            1978 XS1100E Modified
            1978 XS500E
            1979 XS1100F Restored
            1980 XS1100 SG
            1981 Suzuki GS1100
            1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
            1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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            • #7
              Thanks fella's. I wanted to make sure I wasn't making a small problem a big one by running it.

              Pete..Other than an occasional miss and need to set the idle the motor runs smooth.

              Now I will start on the brakes.....
              1979 XS11SF (Shiny Red Sled)
              1982 XJ11 (winter project- Black Beauty)
              1992 XT225 (yard sale find)

              Decide-Commit-Succeed

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              • #8
                You can pull the plugs, and put a little Seafoam or Berryman's B12 down each plug. If you rotate the engine by hand, you can get all four pistons about 1/2 way down. Pour about 2 ounces in each hole, put the plug in about two turns and let sit.
                The next day, pull the plugs and turn the engine over with the starter. Put the plugs back in, and fire it up again. You WILL have some smoke and smell until the exhaust has reached a normal operating temp.
                The Berrymans will loosen the old oil, gas, etc. that may be causing the rings to stick.
                Ray Matteis
                KE6NHG
                XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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                • #9
                  You WILL have some smoke and smell until the exhaust has reached a normal operating temp
                  And then a little while longer till the oil gets burned off from the inside of the pipes.
                  "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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                  • #10
                    How do I rotate it by hand if I don't have a kick start?
                    1979 XS11SF (Shiny Red Sled)
                    1982 XJ11 (winter project- Black Beauty)
                    1992 XT225 (yard sale find)

                    Decide-Commit-Succeed

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                    • #11
                      pull the timing cover off
                      "a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
                      History
                      85 Yamaha FJ 1100
                      79 yamaha xs1100f
                      03 honda cbr 600 f4
                      91 yamaha fzr 600
                      84 yamaha fj 1100
                      82 yamaha seca 750
                      87 yamaha fazer
                      86 yamaha maxim x
                      82 yamaha vision
                      78 yamaha rd 400

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                      • #12
                        some extra pointers

                        "pull the timing cover off"
                        That's the little cast cover on the right side of the engine with "YAMAHA" on it. There's a bunch of screws holding it on. Inside there's the ignition triggers and a big hex nut in the middle. Put a wrench on the nut to rotate the engine. Know that the XS1100 engine runs backwards so turn the nut clockwise. If you don't want to go through this hassle, put it in top gear and either put the bike on it's centrestand and turn the back wheel or just push it along a little.
                        Fred Hill, S'toon
                        XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                        "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                        • #13
                          Thanks...I figured out the timing cover about the time I hit enter. I think my head and my butt had a date.

                          Anyway, I put some Seafoam in this evening. We will see how it goes tomorrow. I also found that I'm only running on 3 cylinders. The #3 cylinder has spark but the exhuast pipe is not getting hot. I'm going to pull the carbs back off and make sure I didn't miss something.
                          1979 XS11SF (Shiny Red Sled)
                          1982 XJ11 (winter project- Black Beauty)
                          1992 XT225 (yard sale find)

                          Decide-Commit-Succeed

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                          • #14
                            Maybe my engine is in backwards but is under the left side cover on mine. That is as I'm sitting on it.
                            78E ... Gone but not forgotten
                            2006 Kawasaki Concours....just getting to know it

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                            • #15
                              Oops

                              Hi Jeffe,
                              sorry about that, must be the dyslexia kicking in again. Yes, you are absolutely correct, the timing cover is on the LEFT side of the engine. (would you believe I actually went and looked at it before I made that last post and still got it wrong?)
                              Still & all, the engine does so run backwards.
                              Fred Hill, S'toon
                              XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                              "The Flying Pumpkin"

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