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  • 80 G Vac advance question

    Finally have my G running good BUT the vacuum advance unit makes an awful hammering sound at low rpm which goes away once the rpm increases. Have tested it with a Mighty Mite (holds vacuum) ... even exchanged for another one but it still makes noise. Bike has some VM33's, K&N insert, and a Super Trapp on it but otherwise stock .... only other info I can add is: when I got the bike it didn't run due to bad PU coil wires ... I had another timing plate layin' around so I fixed it and put it on in place of the one on the G .... looked the same although it came from a 79 motor .... any ideas anyone?
    80G Mini-bagger
    VM33 Smooth bores, Pods, 4/1 Supertrapp, SS brake lines, fork brace

    Past XS11s

    79F Stone stocker and former daily driver, sold May '10 now converting for N.O. to cafe style
    79SF eventually dismantled for parts
    79F Bought almost new in 80, sold for a house
    79F The Ernie bike sold to a Navy dude summer 08
    79SF Squared-off Special, Vetter/Bates tour pkg., Mikes XS coils, G rear fender and tail light. Sold June 09

  • #2
    Could be????

    Sounds like you have the hose in the wrong place. It goes on the nipple on the #2 carb, not on the manifold nipple....
    You can't stay young forever, but you can be immature for the rest of your life...

    '78E "Pathfinder" Show bike...
    Lovingly restored by Dave Delzell
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    Tkat fork brace
    Hardly mufflers
    late model carbs
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    • #3
      The other thing to do is try spraying some silicon lube on the moving parts. I would check the vac hose location first, though.
      Ray Matteis
      KE6NHG
      XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
      XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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      • #4
        With VM33's the vac unit's probably hooked to a carb boot, screw a pilot jet up into the hose as a damper

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        • #5
          Ok ...

          Everything you all have said makes good sense .... when I first got the bike, the vac advance was hooked, as PGGG and the rest of you suspected, to direct manifold vacuum, but the first time I pulled the carbs off, I discovered the ported vacuum port tucked in tight between the 2 and 3 carb ... capped. So I used it instead of a boot when I put it back together. But .... the hose that was hooked to the carb boot originally did have a small restrictor in it ... I figured it was put there to make up for the fact that it was hooked to direct mfld. vacuum instead of ported vacuum .... but probably not so, eh? .... I have a 15 pilot jet layin around ... think that might work? Thx for the input too .... I'll try that on Thursday when I'm off.
          80G Mini-bagger
          VM33 Smooth bores, Pods, 4/1 Supertrapp, SS brake lines, fork brace

          Past XS11s

          79F Stone stocker and former daily driver, sold May '10 now converting for N.O. to cafe style
          79SF eventually dismantled for parts
          79F Bought almost new in 80, sold for a house
          79F The Ernie bike sold to a Navy dude summer 08
          79SF Squared-off Special, Vetter/Bates tour pkg., Mikes XS coils, G rear fender and tail light. Sold June 09

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          • #6
            The pilot jet, half a mm, drilled out

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            • #7
              Hi Thewiz,

              If you have stock carbs, and are using the vac port on no2 carb body, you should not need a restrictor in the line; there should already be one in the port!

              If the carbs are not XS, or if the port in the carb has been altered (heard of several!) you will need a restrictor in the line.

              To test if this is the source of the noise, it is OK to run with the Vac unit disconnected, so long as you cap all of the vac ports on the engine/boots/carb.

              AlanB
              If it ain't broke, modify it!

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