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  • Downshift backfire?

    After cleaning, resynching my carbs and replacing all the fuel lines I've noticed a slight backfire in the left exhaust pipe when I let off the throtte or when I down shift. It seems more noticable when I downshifting and is more of a rumble that a gunshot type. I hope I'm explaining this correctly.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks Paul
    Paul
    1983 XJ1100 Maxim
    1979 XS1100 Standard
    1980 XS1100 Special

    I'm not a motorcycle mechanic but I play one on the internet.

  • #2
    Are carbs running slight rich? Stock exhaust or after market?
    Ernie
    79XS1100SF (no longer naked, now a bagger)
    (Improving with age, the bike that is)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by egsols
      Are carbs running slight rich? Stock exhaust or after market?
      Stock exhaust, I haven't pulled the plugs since I changed them. Maybe worth a peek eh?
      Paul
      1983 XJ1100 Maxim
      1979 XS1100 Standard
      1980 XS1100 Special

      I'm not a motorcycle mechanic but I play one on the internet.

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      • #4
        Is it back firing or "popping" Back fire usually means rich ... popping usually means an air leak somewhere between the intake boots to carbs or at exhaust headers to exhaust ports.
        Rob
        KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

        1978 XS1100E Modified
        1978 XS500E
        1979 XS1100F Restored
        1980 XS1100 SG
        1981 Suzuki GS1100
        1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
        1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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        • #5
          (you just forgot to mention it)

          Popping, 79XS11F, as you well know, can also mean a lean mixture.(wthout having a vacuum leak)
          "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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          • #6
            yes that is true and air leaks will lean it out somewhat. Some may have carbs leaned out in error as well.
            Rob
            KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

            1978 XS1100E Modified
            1978 XS500E
            1979 XS1100F Restored
            1980 XS1100 SG
            1981 Suzuki GS1100
            1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
            1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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            • #7
              So would that be lean on the idle mixture settings then?

              I have them set at 2.5 turns out.
              Paul
              1983 XJ1100 Maxim
              1979 XS1100 Standard
              1980 XS1100 Special

              I'm not a motorcycle mechanic but I play one on the internet.

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              • #8
                Is it idling well both cold and hot Paul? Idle setting is about 2.5 out from lightly seated.
                Is it a true back fire it is it downshifting "popping"?
                Have you done any changes to your carb jetting of float heights? Is this a "new" issue?
                Rob
                KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                1978 XS1100E Modified
                1978 XS500E
                1979 XS1100F Restored
                1980 XS1100 SG
                1981 Suzuki GS1100
                1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                • #9
                  Hey Rob,

                  Ya, new issue. Tried to set the idle mixture screws by ear/rpm, didn't seen to get very far. Carbs have been cleaned and synched with a vacuum gauge. I did replace the old air filter before I started, it was pretty full.

                  It's not a real serious issue, just wasn't dooing it before. Idle mixture screws were set at 2.5 turns out before I cleaned the carbs. I'll double check the carb boots.

                  I think I'll try the propane method.

                  Paul
                  Paul
                  1983 XJ1100 Maxim
                  1979 XS1100 Standard
                  1980 XS1100 Special

                  I'm not a motorcycle mechanic but I play one on the internet.

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                  • #10
                    Yeah or quick start. Spray it around the boots and the butterfly valves and see what happens. you can always turn the idle screws out another 1/4 turn and see what you get. did you sync with a single gauge or a set?
                    Rob
                    KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                    1978 XS1100E Modified
                    1978 XS500E
                    1979 XS1100F Restored
                    1980 XS1100 SG
                    1981 Suzuki GS1100
                    1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                    1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                    • #11
                      I synched with a set, I made it myself with all new gauges.

                      All told the bike runs great, better than when I first brought it home.

                      It won't idle cold without some choke until it is well warmed up. Should it?
                      Paul
                      1983 XJ1100 Maxim
                      1979 XS1100 Standard
                      1980 XS1100 Special

                      I'm not a motorcycle mechanic but I play one on the internet.

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                      • #12
                        That's normal Paul. Full chock for a few seconds followed by 1/2 for a few min should be pretty good unless rather cold out
                        Rob
                        KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                        1978 XS1100E Modified
                        1978 XS500E
                        1979 XS1100F Restored
                        1980 XS1100 SG
                        1981 Suzuki GS1100
                        1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                        1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                        • #13
                          A backfire is firing back thru the carbs. Out of the exhaust is called an afterfire.

                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-fire

                          A Back-fire or backfire is an explosion in the intake manifold, carburetor/throttle body or air cleaner of an internal combustion engine. Although an explosion in the engine's exhaust manifold or exhaust system, is often referred to as a backfire, it is actually an afterfire.

                          Louis
                          "There is no mechanical problem so difficult that it cannot be overcome by
                          brute strength and ignorance" And possibly some Mouse Milk!
                          '82 XJ1100J
                          LED Dir and running lights
                          LED Tail/Brake lights (4) one flashing
                          Modulated H/L
                          PIAA Driving lights
                          YICS Eliminated
                          750 FD

                          Yamaha Factory X-1 Fairing and Luggage

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                          • #14
                            Hi BlueGiant,

                            It is worth checking the calibration on your gauges; it only takes a second!

                            Once you have finished the synch job, and all of your gauges read the same, turn off the motor, swap the gauge hoses onto different cylinders, and try again. If the gauges are all correctly calibrated, they should all still have the exact same readings; If the readings have changed, you have issues with some (or all!) of the gauges.
                            I don't think that I have EVER seen a set that are exactly correct, after thirty-some years in and around the trade.....

                            Most pro mechs I know either have little calibration notes marked on the gauges, or use Mercury sticks..

                            AlanB
                            If it ain't broke, modify it!

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