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  • Dumb question time - reverse gear?

    I've been wondering for a while now, why don't bikes the size of my '82 XJ1100 have a reverse gear? At around 700 lbs, it's about as heavy as motorcycles come. They may have increased the engine displacement considerably over the years, but not the weight. In fact, reading the specs on the Triumph Rocket III (2300ccs), I see that it's still only around 700 lbs. So, why aren't bikes this heavy built with a reverse gear? Am I the only rider who wishes his bike had one when trying to back out of a parking space at even a slight incline? I've had to endure being the butt of my Fred Flintstone jokes. Is it an idea that was tried, but didn't work out?
    The life of a Repo Man is always intense.

  • #2
    real time terrain evaluation, back in on declines or bring a friend
    "a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
    History
    85 Yamaha FJ 1100
    79 yamaha xs1100f
    03 honda cbr 600 f4
    91 yamaha fzr 600
    84 yamaha fj 1100
    82 yamaha seca 750
    87 yamaha fazer
    86 yamaha maxim x
    82 yamaha vision
    78 yamaha rd 400

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    • #3
      because too many people have trouble them forward never mind backward :-)
      Rob
      KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

      1978 XS1100E Modified
      1978 XS500E
      1979 XS1100F Restored
      1980 XS1100 SG
      1981 Suzuki GS1100
      1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
      1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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      • #4
        Hi Bruce,

        Mason has it; just look at where you are going, and think about it before you park; You should never have to back it up an incline!

        AlanB
        If it ain't broke, modify it!

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        • #5
          Don't know about others, but the XS is a pretty simple machine. I think they meant to keep it that way. Something like that would only be something else to break. I don't know when Goldwings started using them, but they are considerably more than our bikes in weight. If you forgot to do your treadmill exercises today, just park it downhill against a curb. Pull it backwards while in the saddle.... two inches at a time. You'll be a happy camper when you finally get the wind blowing on you again (To dry the sweat!) lol.


          Tod
          Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

          You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

          Current bikes:
          '06 Suzuki DR650
          *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
          '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
          '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
          '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
          '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
          '81 XS1100 Special
          '81 YZ250
          '80 XS850 Special
          '80 XR100
          *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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          • #6
            If I find myself in a situation where I must back the bike up an incline .. like through the low spots in my lane way ... I bounce it backward with help from the front forks. hold the front brake force down on the forks and let go of the brake as the forks bounce back and use that as a push off as you also push back with your feet. works good for me.
            Rob
            KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

            1978 XS1100E Modified
            1978 XS500E
            1979 XS1100F Restored
            1980 XS1100 SG
            1981 Suzuki GS1100
            1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
            1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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            • #7
              Rob,

              In my mind's eye... I see you as one of those toy birds that sits on the edge of the glass and looks like it takes a drink over and over... lol. Sorry..


              Tod
              Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

              You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

              Current bikes:
              '06 Suzuki DR650
              *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
              '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
              '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
              '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
              '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
              '81 XS1100 Special
              '81 YZ250
              '80 XS850 Special
              '80 XR100
              *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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              • #8
                LOL LOL hey the lane ways not THAT bad lol lol
                Rob
                KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

                1978 XS1100E Modified
                1978 XS500E
                1979 XS1100F Restored
                1980 XS1100 SG
                1981 Suzuki GS1100
                1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
                1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by trbig
                  Rob,

                  In my mind's eye... I see you as one of those toy birds that sits on the edge of the glass and looks like it takes a drink over and over... lol. Sorry..


                  Tod
                  Yeah, that is pretty amusing to think about, ain't it?
                  The life of a Repo Man is always intense.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by AlanB
                    Hi Bruce,

                    Mason has it; just look at where you are going, and think about it before you park; You should never have to back it up an incline!

                    AlanB
                    Well, of course, I try not to get into such a situation in the first place, but there are times it can't be avoided. There are other times as well, that a reverse gear would be great. On my XJ1100, as with some other large bikes I've owned, sometimes the brakes will stiffen up and drag if the bike sits for a period without being moved. Then, just trying to roll it across level ground is enough to make me sweat, and at my age, that's usually followed up by a nap.
                    The life of a Repo Man is always intense.

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                    • #11
                      Could always mount a little eletric winch on a back rack with a grappling hook on the end. Simpler than redsigning the tranny.
                      Ernie
                      79XS1100SF (no longer naked, now a bagger)
                      (Improving with age, the bike that is)

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                      • #12
                        Hi Bruce,
                        what Mason said. Never park anywhere you can't drive away from going forwards.
                        Take that extra time to roll the back wheel into the kerb with the nose pointing out. Park it like a Harley, man. You learn this real quick if you ride a sidecar outfit. It's actually easier to push a rig backwards that it is to push a solo because you can lean over the front wheel and give a two-handed shove on the bars and know the bike won't fall over. But you also know that strangers are watching you do this and nudging each other and pointing and saying "Look, there's a fellow that failed to plan ahead."
                        Fred Hill, S'toon
                        XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                        "The Flying Pumpkin"

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