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  • #16
    In the '78 and '79 motors, the head was a bit different in the valve relief space. If you look at this pic..



    The piston on the right is from a '78 motor, the one on the left is an '82. As you can see, the later model has a considerably higher dome than the '78 does which should equal more compression on the later models... if all things else were equal. The '78 and '79 motors had HIGHER compression ratios than the later models. This is due to the larger valve relief space in the later heads. I call it valve relief space.. which is what it's called on the piston... sorry if I named it wrong.

    I think Dan Hodges stated, probably the best performance from these motors in a stock setting, would be later model pistons with an early model head and cams,. The only question in this setup would be to check the valve clearances. I don't remember what the minimum was supposed to be, but I did check mine. I am running an '82 head with the 78 cams. The cylinders are a mute point since they basically all have the same internal measurements when stock. So, whatever the minimum piston to valve clearance was I was supposed to be checking, it was somewhere between 2-3 times more than what was called for... MORE than enough room. What would be even better, would be to shave the head some in the later model to boost compression with the early cams. *Coming soon to my next motor!


    Cody, I have never actually done a rebuild really... just pieced old parts together to make one work. I did hone the cylinders this last time and was getting somewhere in the high 150's on compression. I have put a couple hundred miles on this setup I have and will check compression in a bit and get back.

    And from discussions on here from before, it was stated that the valve clearances stay with the head used, not the cams??

    Tod
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    • #17
      This might be a dumb question,,,but I got's to know.
      Any known problems with slipping on a complete 78/79 head on an 80 bottom?? Thanks and easy Bro's.
      If I knew I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself..

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      • #18
        OK, I might be a bone-head... But could some one please tell me if it is ok to bolt on a 78/79 complete head, on to a 1980 bottom. I heard every other combination except for the above mentioned....

        I just need a little conformation before I attempt this conversion....

        "You might be dumb Private Pyle, but do you expect me to believe that you do not know left from right?" FMJ,, lol

        If I knew I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself..

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        • #19
          Thats actually a most interesting question.Awaiting answer with baited breath.
          1978 1100E Standard
          2 1985 700 Maxim's (black & red)
          1986 600 Radian (basket case)
          1979? GS1000 (no title)
          1980 1100SG Special

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          • #20
            Do the pistons in my 81 have the same "high dome" shape piston as the 82 piston on the left, in above pic? ........also, if a 79 head that matched up with piston on the right~~was bolted to an engine with high dome piston(s) on the left ("plug and play" ), > ? not enough valve clearance? right??

            I have a 79 engine, in excellent condition. Just sittin' there in inside storage, several years.
            JCarltonRiggs

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