forward controls

[scappod]

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Heres some shots of pita wearing her forward controls... I have some ideas to impprove these but I need a lathe and someone to operate it. My skills at welding and things of that nature are untried...

Let me know if these posted or not

[scappod]

forward control re-try











Lets see if that worked

[Brian_D]

pictures worked great. thanks. am interested to know what areas could be improved.

I've been looking at possibly using these forwards on a project bike (79 XS11) and interested in hearing your thoughts on thier ergonomics.

[scappod]

forward controls/ergonomics

As far as the controls themselves go I find them to be excellent in placement and fit. I stand at 6'4" and find anything built for the general public to be lacking in room, our bikes are no exception.

with the controls I feel as if my bike is much more stable and I dont feel as if I have to kneel all the way to work.

Now on to the improvements. If you look at the angle at which the linkage has to be at in order to connect to the shifter/brake lever you will see where I am going with this explanation. As you look at the length of black tube that connects the foot peg to the bike and where the linkage connects at the foot peg I wonder if it is possible to machine a piece of tubing, thus sleeving the existing mount, and connecting that to the existing foot control and attatch a hangar to that tubing closest to the frame and route your linkage straight back to the controls thus hiding the linkage along the frame.

If this is confusing then you ought to see it in my head.

[Brian_D]

Re: forward controls/ergonomics

Originally posted by scappod
.... I stand at 6'4" and find anything built for the general public to be lacking in room, our bikes are no exception.

with the controls I feel as if my bike is much more stable and I dont feel as if I have to kneel all the way to work.

At 6'7", I feel your pain.

Now on to the improvements. If you look at the angle at which the linkage has to be at in order to connect to the shifter/brake lever you will see where I am going with this explanation. As you look at the length of black tube that connects the foot peg to the bike and where the linkage connects at the foot peg I wonder if it is possible to machine a piece of tubing, thus sleeving the existing mount, and connecting that to the existing foot control and attatch a hangar to that tubing closest to the frame and route your linkage straight back to the controls thus hiding the linkage along the frame.....

think I see where you are going with this. if the linkage is moved closer to the frame, but retains the current exit angle(s), will it clear the generator and timing covers?

[DiverRay]

With a sleeve, you can make the linkage connector the length needed to clear. To keep the same "feel", just have both ends the same length from the fulcrum point. I can see what he wants, but then I'm also on the wrong side to help with the welding, etc.

[scappod]

forward control mod

Exactly,
I am not nearly as convoluted as I thought... You can make the forward control tab as long as you like to clear the generator and run along the same plane as the frame... thus retaining the same "feel" and at the same time cleaning up the apearance of the linkage and making it a stronger link. and to make it more user/maintenance freindly you could engineer it so when you need to pull it apart for maintenace all you meed to do is unbolt the sleeve from the pedal assembly and bang you have access to all of the lubrication points.

Now with all of this discussed to either of you two know anyone who could do this???

[scappod]

forward control mod

Further,
And being 6'7" you may appreciate this using the ideas we have discussed and moving the forward controls down on the frame about 2-3 inches (you would need to weld tabs on the frame for this) would allow the longer riders a more comfortable position, couple that with a crazy custom mega cool solo seat and that should pit you away from the bars 2" and also reduce the seat height. I realize that being tall you dont necessarily want to be closer to the ground but if you are it helps your center of gravity.
waddaya think?

[Brian_D]

movin the seat

yep, custom seat and V Star 650 swing arm (almost 6" stretch over stock) are "in the works" for my LH.

little concerned about lowering the controls as this would shorten the lean angle even further....but then again, I'm not building for the twisties, so an offset plate should be a simple solution.