To Pod Or Not To Pod?

[exquized1]

where to buy

Where is the best place to buy a set of pods? I am currently missing one and need a new set. Looking for the best pods Vs. price. really don't think I want to go to the yamaha dealer.

[Erik the Red]

Sorry, I don't know about prices etc... but I know that Auto Zone carry K&N products. K&N will be more expensive than Uni filters. I was happy w/ my Uni filters (just gotta make sure to keep them oiled), so it's not like they're just some off-quality off-brand, IMO. Do a Google search and see what you can find.

[GIXXER 711]

you can get the uni pods from www.cyclegear.com. i am willing to bet that you are overtightening them. just snug them, dont crank down on them.

[mason79]

45.99 jc whitney uni filters best price

[trbig]

The pods I have are from Ape Racing Parts. They are K&N replicas for alot less. Plus, these are oil-less... no messing with that part of it.

http://www.aperaceparts.com/

That's they're website, but you'll need to call them as the filters aren't listed. They are 60 bucks, but they work great and don't block any carb ports like my first cheapy ones did from Partsnmore.

I don't know what the JC Whitney pods loook like, but here's the ones from Ape on my bike.... I got the oval ones instead of just round... more filtering area.






Tod

[mason79]

what technology would allow for oiless functioning while the gold standard for aftermarket filtration, requires oil.

what does ape know that the air cleaning industry as a whole does not,

so the question to you is are you comfortable exposing your beautiful air cooled four cylinder masterpiece to grit and grime?

oh i forgot my car's air filter uses no oil, so the new question is do yo throw them out went they are dirty? then the economy cost is not actual...

[Pat Kelly]

I prefer the look of the airbox. Pods leave a big hole in the middle of the bike.

[trbig]

what technology would allow for oiless functioning while the gold standard for aftermarket filtration, requires oil.

I'm just taking someone else's word for it that knows alot more than I do. They said that when they get dirty, run them through a cycle in the dishwasher.

I have wondered myself why car air filters work fine with no oil, but lots require the pods to... mainly K&N. It may be as simple as the material used.. some needs oil, some doesn't. It isn't just APE... there are other pods that don't use it.. including the cheapies from Partsnmore. What about your OEM filter for the airbox? Why no oil on that? Lots of people trust those to clean the air for their masterpieces.
So I don't think it's a case of being the "Gold standard" as much as their personal standard. I had a few thousand miles on these filters when I tore the motor down for other reasons. I am reusing those cylinders off that motor and they spec'd out great! So.. it isn't letting stuff through to tear up the cylinders yet and the valves stems are still sealed well! But... if you don't like the oil-less type and don't trust them... that's your choice.

Tod

[Pat Kelly]

I'm the one running my K&N through the dishwasher. Hot water and detergent from all angles .
K&N uses cotton as a filter medium. The cotton flows more air than a paper element. The porosity of the cotton would allow contaminates to get through so thus the oil.
Same wth foam filters. The oil traps the dirt. The dirt washes away with the oil. Much less expensive to re-oil than replace the entire unit.

[chopwatchagot]

another two cents worth (if that!)

K&N (gauze type) filters flow more air because they have LESS filtering surface. Hold them up to the light. You can see through them. Your car filter (probably folded paper) has way more filtering surface area, hence more restriction, hence no need for oil to grab hold of the dust particles whooshing past. You loose two things by eliminating the stock air box. 1) the "still" air that allows for consistant flow into the carbs. Air rushing past the bike is swirling all over the place causing variable low pressure areas right where the carbs are trying to draw their breath from. GP bikes have air boxes for this reason. 2) unless you utilize the stock rubber air box boots like Jessie did, you loose the "velocity stack" effect of those boots. This is significant. Velocity stacks really work to get the air column heading for the carbs accelerated. The original engineers did know a few things about air flow and such.