New lesson learned....

[planedick]

Although the Pathfinder has a really nice powdercoated frame, when it moves accross state lines there is a real problem. First, the serial numbers were no longer legable by the DMV for vehicle verication, so I had to go home, remove the fairing and file the powdercoating off the numbers and go back, wait in line again, only then to find out the EPA sticker necessary for registration, which is a plastic sticker and didn't survive the powdercoat process. I have to present the MC to the Highway Patrol for their evaluation. Who knows how big this can 'o worms is gonna get....

[mason79]

maybe you stole it, just kiddin

you'll get through it ...
why don't you post some picutures...

[webbcraft2150]

I feel your pain. California has to the toughest state to get something from out of state registered in.
I had a similar battle when I tried to get my 31 year old truck inspected here in TeXS. Flunked 'cause I had a non OEM open air cleaner assembly. Got accused of "altering" the fuel system, seems the young buck doing the inspection had never seen a truck that didn't require unleaded fuel so he figured I had messed with the fuel filler tube. Come'on inspection boy, its a '75, its gotta a GVW of 8900lbs, it was exempt from all that stuff in '75. Had to scrouge up a "closed" air cleaner to pass, inspection boy had to get the "book" out to verify all the other stuff was legal.

I did get a kick out of watching him almost launch it thru the inspection bay when he put it in 1st (granny gear) and dumped the clutch at 2k.

Maybe you will get lucky and get a bike cop to do the inspection. Sometimes they will cut you some slack 'cause they ride to.

[TADracer]

Re: New lesson learned....

Originally posted by planedick
I have to present the MC to the Highway Patrol for their evaluation.

OR, you could just move down here to New Orleans. We don't have any regs whatsoever (the EPA doesnt know we are here....shhhh). $8.50 should get you an inspection sticker.

Besides, in 20 years the shore of the Gulf of Mexico will be up around Baton Rouge, so that means we will all be living closer to better roads for riding.

[MAXIMAN]

Re: New lesson learned....

Originally posted by planedick
Although the Pathfinder has a really nice powdercoated frame, when it moves accross state lines there is a real problem. First, the serial numbers were no longer legable by the DMV for vehicle verication, so I had to go home, remove the fairing and file the powdercoating off the numbers and go back, wait in line again, only then to find out the EPA sticker necessary for registration, which is a plastic sticker and didn't survive the powdercoat process. I have to present the MC to the Highway Patrol for their evaluation. Who knows how big this can 'o worms is gonna get....

Ahh...the great state of Californication... The only state in the union where the beaurucratic rats nest is worse than the federal government's.

Good luck wading through that mess.

[MAXIMAN]

Originally posted by webbcraft2150
I had a similar battle when I tried to get my 31 year old truck inspected here in TeXS. Flunked 'cause I had a non OEM open air cleaner assembly. Got accused of "altering" the fuel system, seems the young buck doing the inspection had never seen a truck that didn't require unleaded fuel so he figured I had messed with the fuel filler tube. . Sometimes they will cut you some slack 'cause they ride to.

Oklahoma used to have an inspection process. But our state legislators had the good sense to get rid of that worthless process of tax collection.

[MAXIMAN]

Re: Re: New lesson learned....

Originally posted by TADracer


OR, you could just move down here to New Orleans. We don't have any regs whatsoever ..........

And the crowd ROARS!!!!!

If states weren't so dependent on federal subsidies they could all tell the EPA to stick it. But if they don't do what "daddy" says he will cut the purse strings.........OOOPS! This might get interesting........

[audijunky]

I LOVE VA,
I have registered my bike as an antique!! One time registration fee, title transfer from PA without even seeing the bike. In all cost me 50 bucks for registration, title, tags, and Tax. Being an antique I am not allowed to use as a daily rider, can only travel distances over 250 miles away from home for special events (IE rallies , or shows or whatever) never have to get an INSPECTION. Sweet black tag with white letters too.
Sorry CA is so dumb. They are classic auto haters. Them and their dumb rules.

[DiverRay]

California does have some dumb rules, but they also have some good ones. The problem with the bike is the idiot at the DMV does NOT know what to do. Take it down to the CHP station, explane the bike to them, and you should be done in about 5 minutes. A good DMV employee can do the same thing, but they are sometimes very hard to find.
California will do a frame number check because we don't want a stolen bike from another state getting a clean title here, unlike a few southern states I won't mention...
I did have some problems with "daily ride", because the PO had NOT transfered the title, and I had to write to Utah and get a title in my name, and then transfer it to California. It took about two months, but I did have a permit that allowed me to ride while I was waiting.
Ray

[planedick]

Pics...

Mason was asking for pics, but photodump is so overloaded I can't get in....

[MAXIMAN]

Originally posted by DiverRay

California will do a frame number check because we don't want a stolen bike from another state getting a clean title here, unlike a few southern states I won't mention...
Ray

I don't know of any states...southern or otherwise...that don't check frame numbers.

I was talking about that damnable EPA crap. As if a few older bikes are going to cause major air pollution. Now if everybody was riding thes old hogs that wold be different. But the reality is they are not. So to moot forcing a 25 year old bike to meet some utopian idea of air quality is an excersize in futility.

Oh well...such is the Golden State. A wonderful beautiful place to visit...absolutely one of the most impressive states in the union...but I can't live their...Oklahoma only has 3 million and I'm already feeling suffocated. I think I'll move to western Nebraska!

[thewiz]

possession is nine tenths of .......

the law, right? But, boy, Howdy, that's sounds like a mess ... I was very interested in the Pathfinder, even talked to Cindy on the phone. What a sweetheart! ...What a ride! ... instead I have bought a bike with an Oregon title ... unregistered since '94. Hope this is not a precurser of what is to come for myself???? Gulp.

[DiverRay]

MAXIMAN,
CA does NOT look at old bikes for EPA crap. Some dip$hi# in the DMV office may not know the law, but the CHP does. ANYTHING over 25 years old is exempt. Bikes, cars ,trucks, mopeds, etc. They are a bit testy when it comes to almost new vehicles, though.
I agree about the crowds in CA, but as I'm writing this in White Rock, NM, I don't see them at the moment.
Ray

[MAXIMAN]

Originally posted by DiverRay
MAXIMAN,
CA does NOT look at old bikes for EPA crap. Some dip$hi# in the DMV office may not know the law, but the CHP does. ANYTHING over 25 years old is exempt. Bikes, cars ,trucks, mopeds, etc. They are a bit testy when it comes to almost new vehicles, though.
I agree about the crowds in CA, but as I'm writing this in White Rock, NM, I don't see them at the moment.
Ray

Ahhh...so there is hope. That's good to know. They should not punish people because of riding and older bike.

Texas is tough on emissions of newer cars to...but only in the cities as far as I know. As well they probably should be because Texas is approaching the 30 million mark rapido.

Oklahoma isn't there ....... yet. But I'm sure the control freaks will be here soon enough.

[planedick]

EPA crap...

Well, the '79 had just such a sticker, I remember seeing it and in CA your vehicle must meet the standards that were the rule when it was new. That means '78 and there were standards then and what we need to know is what that sticker says. If someone here in CA were to look on the goosneck left side, I think, and maybe take a closeup of that label and send it to me....... maybe could solve some of the issues. That Emissions label is what they need. Being plastic, it didn't survive the powdercoating heat.

BTW I finally got into photobucket and here's a pic of Pathfinder today.

It's here in this one too....