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  • 81xsproject
    XS-XJ Super Guru
    • Nov 2004
    • 3185
    • Fortuna, CA

    #1

    Clutch replacement

    Real quick, when replacing the clutch, do the new plates need to be soaked or just coated in oil? The book says coated, but for some reason I remember reading here that they need to be soaked. If soaked, how long?
    '81 XS1100 SH

    Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

    Sep. 12th 2015

    RIP
  • DiverRay
    Moderator
    • Nov 2004
    • 7600
    • Star, IDAHO

    #2
    If you are going to ride soon, just coat. If it will be a few months before riding, I would soak for a few hours.
    Ray
    Ray Matteis
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    XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
    XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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    • Goin Commando
      Truly XSive
      • Sep 2006
      • 125
      • Florida

      #3
      Yes to what Ray said, and make sure you put all of the steel plates on the same direction, with the smooth side out.
      On one side it will be kind of round[smooth] and the other side will have a sharp edge. This is the way they are stamped.
      good luck
      and say no to synthetic oil
      I love the smell of Napalm in the morning.... It smells like......victory

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      • 81xsproject
        XS-XJ Super Guru
        • Nov 2004
        • 3185
        • Fortuna, CA

        #4
        I thought you were supposed to turn all the plates with every clutch-job (sounds dirty, huh?). Maybe that is just my over active imagination, about turning the plates.
        '81 XS1100 SH

        Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

        Sep. 12th 2015

        RIP

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        • Incubus
          XS-XJ Guru
          • Aug 2006
          • 1003
          • Austin TX

          #5
          I'm not positive it makes a difference which way the beveled edges face, as long as all the metal plates are aligned the same way. Some folks swear they have to be one way, some are convinced the other way is the way to go.

          Also, if you are going to reuse the fiber plates, put them back in the same order or your clutch will wear out quickly.

          Patrick
          The glorious rays of the rising sun exist only to create shadows in which doom may hide.

          XS11F (Incubus, daily rider)
          1969 Yamaha DT1B
          Five other bikes whose names do not begin with "Y"

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          • Ljay40
            Truly XSive
            • Jun 2006
            • 149

            #6
            I grabbed a complete clutch pack all within specs (2.9mm) off ebay was thinking when I tear down I was going to meausure thickness of all clutch disc's and use the best ones, and then add the extra steel plate do you think that will wear out to fast succubus beacause they're not replace back in pattern
            if I mix disc's?The springs I measured are still like brand new as well I would think it would not matter long as they are in spec and all steels are flat and springs are good.
            I know the best way to go is to use all brand new but im really counting on the extra steel to tighten things up .

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            • trbig
              Simply used to just post A LOT!
              • Nov 2005
              • 7838
              • Ada, Oklahoma

              #7
              I recently redid my clutch at John's house with new springs and the extra steel plate. I reused the discs. It is probably twice as stiff pulling the clutch as it used to be, but there is absolutely NO slip. At long lights, I just put it in neutral instead of holding it the whole time. I also bought a clutch cable to carry in my bag all the time... just in case the extra pull gets too much for my 25 year old one! lol. I think you'll like the results.

              The only thing I see by switching the discs order, is that the disc will rub down a bit to be a mate to the new steel it's against. I don't see how it could continue to wear down at a faster pace... but I have been known to be wrong on many many occasions! lol. The extra steel will make up for a lot of disc wear... just remember to put it in the middle... right after the 4th steel.

              Tod
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              • Incubus
                XS-XJ Guru
                • Aug 2006
                • 1003
                • Austin TX

                #8
                If you already have the fibers you might as well install them. Trbig is right. When you switch the fibers around they wear to mate with new steel. Since they are already worn, they will wear more. In the grand scheme of things, however, a clutch replacement is a pretty fast and easy job. You will quickly be able to tell when your clutch is going. I would put as many of the original plates back in place and replace any out of spec with the new used fibers.

                I have done that with other bikes, replacing only certain disks. It worked well for a while, then I had to redo it.

                Patrick
                The glorious rays of the rising sun exist only to create shadows in which doom may hide.

                XS11F (Incubus, daily rider)
                1969 Yamaha DT1B
                Five other bikes whose names do not begin with "Y"

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                • 81xsproject
                  XS-XJ Super Guru
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 3185
                  • Fortuna, CA

                  #9
                  Unless you really enjoy tearing your clutch apart, just use all new disks and save youself some trouble. TRUST ME!!(This is like my forth time in there)
                  '81 XS1100 SH

                  Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

                  Sep. 12th 2015

                  RIP

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                  • Snow
                    XS-XJ Guru
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 1041
                    • Tallahassee, FL

                    #10
                    I only soaked for about 10 minutes when I did mine...ended up wishing I had properly soaked as they just would not let go for a while.
                    1979 XS11F Standard - Maya - 1196cc (out of order)
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                    • 81xsproject
                      XS-XJ Super Guru
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 3185
                      • Fortuna, CA

                      #11
                      I ended up soaking mine for about 4hrs. I hope that it was enough for the long winter projects.
                      '81 XS1100 SH

                      Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

                      Sep. 12th 2015

                      RIP

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