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  • #1

    A request and a question or two

    Hey guys...

    I would appretiate a photo of a vetter windjammer IV/SS fairing mounts, prefferably mounted... I have one and the mounting hardware is dubious.. It bolts on to the two bolts that hold the oil cooler mounting and has its own oil cooler hardware welded on. But the angles don't add up. For the lowers. So a few angles are off and I would really like to know how to adjust it right.
    The position of the fairing on the mount and the angle relative to the standard gas tank would be nice.

    The question is: My new old 1.1 standard sat for a few years. Clutch has no effect. If I pull the lever in, I see the clutch plates through the oil filler hole seperate, but the rear wheel is still connected to the crank... wont disengage. Any ideas? Is it just a matter of unstucking it?
    I havent started the engine yet... I have a plan to warm up the engine a bit, let the oil heat up and circulate a bit... if that will free it. I really dont feel like disassembling the thing.

    And does anybody have a nice set of handlebars that work well with the vetter fairing.... XJ1100 look nice... adjustable and all... would I have to change the upper part of the tripple tree for those to work?

    LP
    If it doesn't have an engine, it's not a sport, it's only a game.
    (stole that one from I-dont-know-who)
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  • #2
    Strom,
    The Vetter mount system SUCKS, IMHO. I just dumped my second windjammer, and installed a Pacifico/Yamaha '78 fairing on my '79. The lowers WILL need to be adjusted to fit properly, but the mount bracket sounds correct.
    To free up the clutch, you have two choices.
    1. Put the bike in 3rd gear, pull in the clutch and start rocking the bike. It may take a while, but the clutch fiber plates should break loose from the steels.
    2. If 1 didn't work, park on side stand, remove clutch plates, clean in solvent, oil and reassemble. That will fix it.
    3. Once you start the engine, and have it running somewhat well in neutral, shut it off, get on bike, pull in clutch, put bike in 3rd gear, and try to start it. If it will start , it will probably try to take off, so hold the FRONT brake. Once the plates break loose, you are rady to ride.
    Ray
    Ray Matteis
    KE6NHG
    XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
    XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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    • #3
      Fairings for these old bikes are quite rare in yurp... and I loke the look of windjammer, so I will be keeping it. I would still like some input on the mounting hardware.
      Thanks for the advice on the clutch.

      LP
      If it doesn't have an engine, it's not a sport, it's only a game.
      (stole that one from I-dont-know-who)

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      • #4
        But the angles don't add up

        Flat plate between forks?
        Did weld/repair one for a guy.
        If I remember correctly it is parallel to ground.

        Sorry, did not take any pics tho



        mro

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        • #5
          The tips on vetter website say that the back part of the mounting rails should be 1 1/2 to 1 1/4 inches lower than the front part of the two rails that the fairing sits on. Great. But then my lowers get all weird and out of place.

          LP
          If it doesn't have an engine, it's not a sport, it's only a game.
          (stole that one from I-dont-know-who)

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          • #6
            Strom,
            Did the Vetter come off a 1.1, or a SPORT??? I think that is the EU equivilent of the US Standard and Special. The Special mounts at a different angle than the Standard, and that may be the problems with the lowers...
            Just a thought
            Ray
            Ray Matteis
            KE6NHG
            XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
            XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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            • #7
              No idea.... said it was from XS 1100, but I dont know which model.
              It was a distinctive green and the instrument cluster I got off ebay (dont know if its the same seller) is the same color. The instruments are from a standard.
              And 1.1 sport was not the same as a US special at all... gas tank was similar, but the frame (mounting brackets for the electrical gizmos) were placed elsewhere, also some other minor modifications.
              Anyway, I have two standards.... 78E and 1.1 (sans sport). The 78 is gonna be a full dresser (got the vetter cases off ebay), the 1.1 is gonna stay stock. Always liked the look of the vetter cases on the back of any bike... looks a mix between a spaceship and an old 80s vette.

              LP

              PS: I like the look of the vette too....
              If it doesn't have an engine, it's not a sport, it's only a game.
              (stole that one from I-dont-know-who)

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              • #8
                Are you sure you have the right lowers? The XS1100 uses 'Type 2' lowers, as do several other bikes, but any WindJammer lowers will fit any Windjammer.

                There are at least 10 types of windjammer lowers. All of them are made from the same molds, but glued together at different angles/positions to fit different styles of bikes.

                PS: Pacific was just a rip-off of the Vetter design...Nothing like the real thing.
                Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

                '05 ST1300
                '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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                • #9
                  For what its worth

                  Quote from Craig Vetters website


                  The Windjammer 5 was contoured slightly differently. Lowers made for previous Windjammers will not fit Windjammer 5 and vice versa


                  From "Windjammer V Lowers Mounting Instructions" dated 12-12-80:


                  Type 51: Honda GL1100

                  Type 52: Honda CB900 1980, CB750F, K, C 1979-1980

                  Type 53: Kawasaki KZ1000, MKII, ST

                  Type 54: Suzuki 550LX, 850GX, Yamaha XS1100

                  Type 55: Honda CX500, Custom, Deluxe

                  Type 56: Suzuki GS1100, GS750

                  *Only special Windjammer 5 Lowers fit the Windjammer 5. I suggest you stay away from this fairing if you will want Lowers


                  End Quote

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                  • #10
                    I have no idea what type of lowers I have... they tend to fit nicely behind the alternator and the pick up coil covers, provided the mounting hardware is set correctly.
                    The tag on the fairing and sn and the look is consistent with windjammer IV or SS.. forgot which one, but no matter since they are identical.

                    LP
                    If it doesn't have an engine, it's not a sport, it's only a game.
                    (stole that one from I-dont-know-who)

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                    • #11
                      My 79-80 XS 1.1 standard said
                      WROOOOMMMMMM
                      today... after 8 years of non running. The idle was a bit high, but no matter. Purrs like a kitten. Started the 1st try.

                      LP
                      If it doesn't have an engine, it's not a sport, it's only a game.
                      (stole that one from I-dont-know-who)

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                      • #12
                        Oh, and the clutch freed up.... weeee

                        LP
                        If it doesn't have an engine, it's not a sport, it's only a game.
                        (stole that one from I-dont-know-who)

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                        • #13
                          Soneone is going out for a ride!

                          Originally posted by strom
                          Oh, and the clutch freed up.... weeee

                          LP
                          Skids (Sid Hansen)

                          Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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                          • #14
                            The fairing mounts, for vetter fairings, cannot fit wrong, unless you have the wrong mount for the bike.

                            The upper two bolt holes line up with holes in the frame, and the lower legs clamp to the front frame uprights. The fairing then sits flat on top of the mount rails.

                            The only way that this can all fit together, and be wrong, is if the mount is not for that bike.

                            Thre is no guess work, or alignement that has to be done.
                            Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

                            '05 ST1300
                            '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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                            • #15
                              Well... the fairing was repaired at one time (and not too good at that), so I suspect that so was the mounting. I will take a pic of it, coz it looks quite home-made to me.

                              Cant go for a ride yet.... I have those ducati mufflers on, and they are held with bungee cords. If I think about turning, they would probbably fly off.

                              LP
                              If it doesn't have an engine, it's not a sport, it's only a game.
                              (stole that one from I-dont-know-who)

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