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  • #16
    Log Entry #9

    Osea, thanks for the input. The XV500K is a one-year bike and has many unique parts, not common to other Viragoes. The carb set up is unusual. The float bowl is not a top-and-bottom, but a side-to-side, so the gasket is an o-ring, not a fiber card. The petcock is vacuum controlled, but has an outlet to a fuel pump, then to the carbs, then BACK OUT OF THE CARBS, back to the petcock, and then gas goes back into the tank after being pumped through the carbs. The petcock has been completely slaughtered and parts are impossible to find, so I just filled it in with gasket strips and I'm relying on the needles to hold the gas back. I adjusted the carbs to lean it out, as at first it seemed very rich, but I think that was just flooding. I'm going to try to readjust float levels this weekend and see what happens. The damned manual has a neat picture of the float level being determined on the bike as being 12-13mm from the midpoint of the bowl...but is the midpoint marked? Nope. And with the +/- being 1mm, the midpoint is pretty important, no?

    Dan, I was in the process of adapting a tractor solenoid to replace the corroded one, and used it to start the bike several times, but then broke down and paid $32 for a spot-on replacement. The starting side is all intact now, including the relays, TCI, and solenoid.

    I was trying to go cheapo, as my wife was convinced that the bike was a goner. She has said, however, that she'd be impressed as hell if I ever got the POS roadworthy. That's worth a little work, isn't it?

    I'm convinced that the thing that caused the bike to be abandoned was the faulty relay. Someone not bike-savvy might be stymied by a bike with power that doesn't even try to start. The real problem I'm dealing with now is repairing the other PO's misguided attempts to repair something when they didn't know what was wrong.

    I can see lights on the horizon at night. I've explored the island a little and found the wreckage of a plane, probably a Japanese bomber, but it's hard to tell, as it's in a hundred-yard-long wreckage field, just bits and pieces, and the jungle has grown up around it. I've made a passable rope with woven palm fronds and lashed several palm logs together and I might try to drift into the shipping lanes when the wind is right. Hope is not yet lost.
    "Time is the greatest teacher; unfortunately, it kills all of its students."

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    • #17
      Originally posted by LoHo
      I love intermittant electrical problems, don't you? A puzzle within a riddle, wrapped in a question....
      When I have the phantom electrical problem, I break some hard part, just so I can fix it and feel like I am making progress.
      1979 XS1100 SF
      Under Construction,
      Due out by Spring '07
      "Some days, it ain't even worth chewing through the restraints."

      TomKat

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      • #18
        Yeah, TomKat, my outlet is painting the gas tank again, rather than actually buckling down and taking things apart. I've painted my old project bike's tank about five times. My wife calls it a "mood tank," because it changes color whenever I "work on the bike."
        "Time is the greatest teacher; unfortunately, it kills all of its students."

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        • #19
          Log Entry #10

          The days are getting shorter. I need to take the carbs, which I cleaned and pre-set, off again to raise the float a little. It's hard to set these sideways carbs up...the only way is the clear-tube-from-the-drain-hole method, and the setting is not marked on the outside of the carb; "12mm, +/- 1mm, measured from the middle of the float bowl."

          I've built a lean-to for the afternoon rain...the days are getting shorter. Caught a fish yesterday and ate it raw...
          "Time is the greatest teacher; unfortunately, it kills all of its students."

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          • #20
            NonXSland Log Entry #11

            After adjusting the carbs, it is still hard starting, So I decided to work on something I'd avoided before: the pilot screws. As is my usual routine, I decided to take the lazy way out and just remove the screws, clean the passage, and set them as per the suggested starting spot. I insert my screwdriver and catch the slot, but it hangs tough. Okay, try the other one. Catch the slot turn it out until it feels loose, but then no way to get it out of the cavity. Use a magnet? Naw, it's brass. Okay, worry about that later.

            Back to the first one. Catch the slot...press in and turn...okay, it's turning...but doesn't feel right. Check the screwdriver: brass shavings. Damn. Spray some penetrating oil in the cavity, wait, wonder why I didn't spray it first. Try the driver again. Oh good, now the brass shavings are hanging together and coming out more smoothly with the lube.

            Okay, let's drill a small hole and then use an extractor. Drill goes in a ways, then the extractor. More, but finer, shavings. Okay, drill a little deeper...snap! Stubby square drill point....

            Okay, order new screws and wait for time to take the carbs off again, which if I'd done before this, I would probably not have this problem. I'd love to just solve a bike problem once without creating two or three new problems.

            Being isolated in some uncharted part of NonXSland, I've started talking to myself, but find the conversation one-sided. Maybe I'm boring. No, I'm not, it's just that you always seem to create a new problem without solving anything you work on. So you're saying I shouldn't wrench? No, I'm saying you should prepare better and then not take risky shortcuts that cause extra work. Well duh, it's not like I planned to strip the screw. Of course you didn't plan to, you never plan. Oh shut up! No YOU shut up! Stupid, ham-fisted dilettante! Retard! You make Hogue look like a rocket scientist! Oh you piece of...(fighting and scuffling....)

            ~LoHo~
            "Time is the greatest teacher; unfortunately, it kills all of its students."

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            • #21
              At least you're having fun, LoHo.

              One os SWMBO's friends has a little baby Virago that she is learning to ride, so I got involved with a carb sync, air filter cleanup, colortune, etc. It was absolutely amazing how far out of sync the carbs were, but that explained why she was having trouble stalling when starting out. At idle, it was actually only running on one cylinder so it had only half, or less, of the lower amount of power it had at the best of times.

              All went well until it came time to colortune, then I ran into a similar 'brass shavings' scenario. Even with the pre-spritz of penetrating oil. That one carb is still like that to this day. I figure I'll wait until I have a spare screw on hand before I go in for the 'dremel a new slot' technique, just in case. Maybe some time early next spring will be a good time for that phase.....
              Ken Talbot

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              • #22
                Let me know, Ken. I ordered two new screws and will send you the odd man out if I don't need it. The Virago site mentions that idling on the rear cylinder is part of the design, but others disagree. I still get a shut-down spark on the front and an occasional 12-gauge backfire. I always enjoy bringing a dead bike back to life, but I think I am approaching the point of negative returns, as in spending $600 to create a $500 bike, but who knows? Good thing I suck at math...
                "Time is the greatest teacher; unfortunately, it kills all of its students."

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                • #23
                  I'll keep that in mind, but I'm not sure if the screws would be the same. SWMBO's friends bike is the little 535 model. It is a great starter bike, and we personally know 4 or 5 women here in Revelstoke who have all owned it at one time or another as they were learning to ride.

                  So, remind me, what is it you teach?
                  Ken Talbot

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                  • #24
                    Sure isn't auto shop or small engines!

                    I teach history, currently AP US, Modern World, and regular US.

                    We're looking forward to another rally within reach...Bozeman was fun!
                    "Time is the greatest teacher; unfortunately, it kills all of its students."

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                    • #25
                      Yes, it was! Rockjock puts on a hellova rally!

                      Originally posted by LoHo
                      Sure isn't auto shop or small engines!

                      I teach history, currently AP US, Modern World, and regular US.

                      We're looking forward to another rally within reach...Bozeman was fun!
                      Skids (Sid Hansen)

                      Down to one 1978 E. Stock air box with K&N filter, 81H pipes and carbs, 8500 feet elevation.

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