Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

oil on front brakes and no front damping

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • oil on front brakes and no front damping

    i took the bike out tonight for the first time on the freeway,one broad power band,

    i was a little sqerluy the first 20 miles but the last was great, man the bike is fast, low middle and top so complete,

    i don't have another bike to compare what the sounds are, if they suppose to be there, oh well.

    i should not have drip motor oil down the speedo cable, i thought i cleaned it up but some got on the new brake pads, and let me tell ya,

    weak or no brakes on something this fast is suicidal

    1) does anyone think i can salvage those pads?

    2) the forks ( i have air caps at 7 pounds or so) seem to have no rebound damping, is this normal for the 79 standard? of course the air hides the compression damping, it seems a little pogo-ish,

    i'll change it, but should i go 15 weight, or did the original 10 wt thin out and maybe i should go with 10wt again, i sure hate to say it but i weight 135lb

    matter of fact the whole front end is disappointing, btw i have a fork brace
    "a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
    History
    85 Yamaha FJ 1100
    79 yamaha xs1100f
    03 honda cbr 600 f4
    91 yamaha fzr 600
    84 yamaha fj 1100
    82 yamaha seca 750
    87 yamaha fazer
    86 yamaha maxim x
    82 yamaha vision
    78 yamaha rd 400

  • #2
    No front brakes would be a scary deal. You might be able to save them. Remove the pads and clean them with brake cleaner or laquer thinner. Brake cleaner works best cause it leave no residue. Once they dry, take a file or hand grinder and CAREFULLY remove just the top layer of pad. Then using a 180 grit paper, lay it on a flat surface and "smooth" out the pads. Use the brake cleaner and some emery cloth on the rotors, you need to break the glaze on them. With the importance of having good brakes on a rig that reaches warp speed in a heartbeat, this procedure should only be used till you get new pads, they are not as expensive as a ambulance (or hearse) ride. As for your forks, your best bet is disassemble, clean and reassemble with new fork seals. Read the tech tips, its not a hard job and the results are well worth it. As for fork oil, I run 15w. Fork air is set at 15-20lbs, but I run with a full fairing and enjoy sub-light speeds
    When a 10 isn't enough, get a 11. 80g Hardbagger

    Comment


    • #3
      your best bet is disassemble, clean and reassemble with new fork seals. Read the tech tips, its not a hard job and the results are well worth it.
      i did the fronts on many a bikes and would hate to tear this one down, but then again it is my best bike ever...

      the seals aren't leaking, you think i should "go all the way"? maybe pour some engine flush instead? just kinding

      then i'll check the bearings in the steering head...

      i like progressive springs in the pass, in a shoot out with stockers and aircaps who wins? since i'm in there?

      i don't think i'm ever goin to fair the bike with anything heavy,matter of fact selling the fairing on ebay now...
      "a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
      History
      85 Yamaha FJ 1100
      79 yamaha xs1100f
      03 honda cbr 600 f4
      91 yamaha fzr 600
      84 yamaha fj 1100
      82 yamaha seca 750
      87 yamaha fazer
      86 yamaha maxim x
      82 yamaha vision
      78 yamaha rd 400

      Comment


      • #4
        Stopping challenged

        Don't beleave I'd mess w/oiled pads

        735 pounds needes to stop, WHEN it needs to stop.
        (600 pound bike & Slim dude on seat)

        Don't get "doOvers" if you don't slow/stop the first time



        mro

        btw
        You sure could give TC and bandit are decent 1/4 mile run
        They both weigh in around 250

        Comment


        • #5
          Read the tech tips on forks. They are the easiest I have ever had to work on. The allen head bolt in the bottom can be a battle, but the tech tips will guide you thru it without having to buy any special tools. While you have the forks apart, its real easy to polish the downtubes. You have to think about it, they most likely have never been worked on since leaving the land of the rising sun.
          When a 10 isn't enough, get a 11. 80g Hardbagger

          Comment


          • #6
            Got the opposite, front end is great, rear dampers suck. PO had the front forks done over with new springs. I'm running 2 lbs. air. Nice. Rear shocks are originals and shot at over 51k miles.
            Shiny side up,
            650 Mike

            XS1100SF "Rusty", runs great, 96k miles
            XS650SJ "The Black Bike", engine from XS650H with 750cc big bore kit, 30k miles

            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out and defiantly shouting, "WOW, what a ride !" - [URL="http://www.flyingsnail.com/Sprung/index.html"]Sprung[/URL]

            Comment


            • #7
              Read the tech tips on forks. They are the easiest I have ever had to work on
              i'll look and can't find r and r for forks in modify, repair and maintain...
              but i thought they were all the same, long reach homemade tool yada...

              progressives or leave it with a good cleaning?

              While you have the forks apart, its real easy to polish the downtubes
              howed you know my 48,000 mile ride needed fork polishing, you must have telepathy
              Last edited by mason79; 04-21-2006, 09:45 AM.
              "a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
              History
              85 Yamaha FJ 1100
              79 yamaha xs1100f
              03 honda cbr 600 f4
              91 yamaha fzr 600
              84 yamaha fj 1100
              82 yamaha seca 750
              87 yamaha fazer
              86 yamaha maxim x
              82 yamaha vision
              78 yamaha rd 400

              Comment


              • #8
                mason79,
                I just put new springs in my '79 standard. I bought the progressive fork springs, and they are great. I am using synthetic ATF for fork oil, and it seems to work well for me. the rebound is in control, and the ride isn't too harsh. I am a little bigger than you, at 225 lbs.!
                To replace springs, etc. I just raised the front end, pulled the drain screws one at a time, and pulled the fork cap off that tube. Once the old oil was out, I sprayed a little brake cleaner down the tube, and let it run out. I then went on to the other tube, leaving the first open to air out. I then put the new springs in, put about 10 ounces of oil in each tube. I then took a 24" long steel rod, and measured how far down the oil was. I added until it was 16" down from the top of the tube. This was after working the front end up and down a few times to get the oil into all the passages.
                I then reinstalled the caps on the forks, and went for a test ride. Forks work great, and after 1.5K miles, don't leak.(I do ride a lot)
                Real easy, and the progressive fork springs were $61 delivered!
                Ray
                Ray Matteis
                KE6NHG
                XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

                Comment


                • #9
                  Got the opposite, front end is great, rear dampers suck. PO had the front forks done over with new springs. I'm running 2 lbs. air. Nice. Rear shocks are originals and shot at over 51k miles.
                  c'mon 4 bolts on the center stand, i'll swap? deal or no deal?
                  "a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
                  History
                  85 Yamaha FJ 1100
                  79 yamaha xs1100f
                  03 honda cbr 600 f4
                  91 yamaha fzr 600
                  84 yamaha fj 1100
                  82 yamaha seca 750
                  87 yamaha fazer
                  86 yamaha maxim x
                  82 yamaha vision
                  78 yamaha rd 400

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    I added until it was 16" down from the top of the tube.
                    i may go with your; not taking it all apart method, and spray carb cleaner, i like the dip stick idea, those cooking beakers inhale...

                    may i ask where you got those springs?
                    "a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
                    History
                    85 Yamaha FJ 1100
                    79 yamaha xs1100f
                    03 honda cbr 600 f4
                    91 yamaha fzr 600
                    84 yamaha fj 1100
                    82 yamaha seca 750
                    87 yamaha fazer
                    86 yamaha maxim x
                    82 yamaha vision
                    78 yamaha rd 400

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      .. i have the progressive fork springs, run 0 psi in the forks and have the 10w fork oil set at the factory specs. i also have the 1/2 inch over progressive shocks with the heavy springs on the rear. in 2003 i printed off of this site instructions on how to make your XS11 handle great, and it worked!
                      .. oh yeah, 79 special, i'm 5'11" and weigh 210 lbs
                      good tires were a plus also

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        mason79,
                        Here is a link for the site.
                        http://www.mawonline.com/#Product%20Index
                        The rear shocks are priced rite as well, but I've replaced mine about 6 months ago.
                        Ray
                        Ray Matteis
                        KE6NHG
                        XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
                        XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DiverRay
                          mason79,
                          Here is a link for the site.
                          http://www.mawonline.com/#Product%20Index
                          The rear shocks are priced rite as well, but I've replaced mine about 6 months ago.
                          Ray
                          thanks i have s and w's in the back from po, but i don't know what 49k miles do to bike shocks, especially since he was full dress and had a trailer hitch, ouch! seems performaing well though
                          "a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
                          History
                          85 Yamaha FJ 1100
                          79 yamaha xs1100f
                          03 honda cbr 600 f4
                          91 yamaha fzr 600
                          84 yamaha fj 1100
                          82 yamaha seca 750
                          87 yamaha fazer
                          86 yamaha maxim x
                          82 yamaha vision
                          78 yamaha rd 400

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Tell ya what I'm gonna do, I'll trade my bitchin' stock rears for those crummy S&Ws.

                            Hey, I used to have a 750 Seca and 2 Visions, great bikes!
                            Shiny side up,
                            650 Mike

                            XS1100SF "Rusty", runs great, 96k miles
                            XS650SJ "The Black Bike", engine from XS650H with 750cc big bore kit, 30k miles

                            Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out and defiantly shouting, "WOW, what a ride !" - [URL="http://www.flyingsnail.com/Sprung/index.html"]Sprung[/URL]

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by xs650mike
                              Tell ya what I'm gonna do, I'll trade my bitchin' stock rears for those crummy S&Ws.

                              Hey, I used to have a 750 Seca and 2 Visions, great bikes!
                              all my previous yammies had thier own personallities, this one is big and bold, almost like a big block ford
                              "a good man knows his limitations" dirty harry
                              History
                              85 Yamaha FJ 1100
                              79 yamaha xs1100f
                              03 honda cbr 600 f4
                              91 yamaha fzr 600
                              84 yamaha fj 1100
                              82 yamaha seca 750
                              87 yamaha fazer
                              86 yamaha maxim x
                              82 yamaha vision
                              78 yamaha rd 400

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X