Xenon HID headlight

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  • sbrogden
    XSive
    • Aug 2007
    • 19
    • the Swamp known as Houston

    #1

    Xenon HID headlight

    I recently purchased ($61 on eBay) a Xenon HID headlight conversion kit for my bike. This light draws 35 watts instead of the 55 watts of the stock low beam, giving the charging system on my old bike a lot of margin. The kit comes with a ballast unit and a control unit - both of which I mounted inside my fairing. I don't see how these parts would fit inside a stock headlight bucket, but they are not too big.

    The control kit acts like a relay - connects to the battery, the stock headlight harness (the connector that used to attach to your halogen bulb), and the ballast (which steps up voltage to 20,000 to light up the Xenon gas).

    Controls are unchanged from stock.

    Wow! This very bright, white light is a huge improvement - without the complexity and added power drain of a light bar.
    sbrogden
    '80 XS850SG
    http://brogdensmuse.menofhonorministry.org/
  • webbcraft2150
    XS-XJ Guru
    • Sep 2002
    • 1605
    • AUSTIN.TX

    #2
    But did you keep the high/low beam?
    When a 10 isn't enough, get a 11. 80g Hardbagger

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    • sbrogden
      XSive
      • Aug 2007
      • 19
      • the Swamp known as Houston

      #3
      Originally posted by webbcraft2150
      But did you keep the high/low beam?
      Yes, the motorcycle HID kit keeps high and low beam. I disconnected the Reserve Lighting Unit as the new headlight doesn't draw enough current to convince the RLU that it's lit. It took a second for the switch from high to low before I removed the RLU and the RLU idiot light was always on. Once I disconnected the RLU, switching was as fast as stock.

      This is one of the best changes I've made to this old bike.
      sbrogden
      '80 XS850SG
      http://brogdensmuse.menofhonorministry.org/

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      • Hobbit
        XStremely XSive
        • Nov 2002
        • 372
        • Jacksonville, FL

        #4
        How hot does it get?

        I'm interested in adding one to my Valkyrie, but I'm concerned about the amount of heat the bulb puts off. (The Valk has a plastic headlight lense.) I have not been able to find this information anywhere on the web.
        Walt
        80 XS11s - "Landshark"
        79 XS11s
        03 Valkyrie
        80 XS Midnight Special - Freebee 1
        78 Honda CB125C - Freebee 2
        81 Suzuki 850L - Freebee 3

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        • sbrogden
          XSive
          • Aug 2007
          • 19
          • the Swamp known as Houston

          #5
          I think a lot of the new cars also have plastic lenses and wold be surprised if Xenon lights were problematic.
          sbrogden
          '80 XS850SG
          http://brogdensmuse.menofhonorministry.org/

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          • Dennyz
            XS-XJ Guru
            • Jul 2002
            • 1151
            • Olympia, Washington

            #6
            Something to go by,

            Using my laser temperature reader, I took some measurements of a standard 55/60 H4 headlight (at high beam) and the newly installed H.I.D. system in my standard headlight (at high beam).

            .............................H4 55/60..........HID
            straight on,
            @ 24" away...............190F............105F

            45 degree from
            the top
            @ 6" away................117F............103F

            Lens with
            light off....................115F............105F

            Both have good lenses. I took the "light off" temp just after turn the headlight off. The HID is noticeably cooler to the touch.

            Since the H.I.D. system pulls less power (watts), it would make sense that it puts out less heat.
            DZ
            Vyger, 'F'
            "The Special", 'SF'
            '08 FJR1300

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            • Hobbit
              XStremely XSive
              • Nov 2002
              • 372
              • Jacksonville, FL

              #7
              Great help

              Thanks Dennyz,

              That's the kind of information I was looking for.
              Walt
              80 XS11s - "Landshark"
              79 XS11s
              03 Valkyrie
              80 XS Midnight Special - Freebee 1
              78 Honda CB125C - Freebee 2
              81 Suzuki 850L - Freebee 3

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              • lsippell
                XStremely XSive
                • Sep 2003
                • 216
                • Mayflower, Arkansas

                #8
                Does anyone know how hot the ballast of a HID gets?

                I've got one coming and would like to mount it (the ballast) inside my fairing if heat isn't an issue.

                Louis
                "There is no mechanical problem so difficult that it cannot be overcome by
                brute strength and ignorance" And possibly some Mouse Milk!
                '82 XJ1100J
                LED Dir and running lights
                LED Tail/Brake lights (4) one flashing
                Modulated H/L
                PIAA Driving lights
                YICS Eliminated
                750 FD

                Yamaha Factory X-1 Fairing and Luggage

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                • sbrogden
                  XSive
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 19
                  • the Swamp known as Houston

                  #9
                  I mounted the ballast and the control box inside my fairing. It can't get too hot, as it's designed to be mounted with double-sided tape - which would melt before our plastic fairing.

                  I'll try to remember to put my hand on it when I arrive home this evening.
                  sbrogden
                  '80 XS850SG
                  http://brogdensmuse.menofhonorministry.org/

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                  • firecrackerboom
                    XSive
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 81
                    • South Dakota

                    #10
                    do you know who you bought the hid kit from? i dont want to get a dud.
                    1979 Eleven Special - 26,000 miles.

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                    • sbrogden
                      XSive
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 19
                      • the Swamp known as Houston

                      #11
                      I bought from this eBay shop - http://stores.ebay.com/diane-shop and paid $62 total for the motorcycle HID kit. It works great. I asked for schematics in addition to what was sent and rec'd them via email within 30 hours.
                      sbrogden
                      '80 XS850SG
                      http://brogdensmuse.menofhonorministry.org/

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                      • firecrackerboom
                        XSive
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 81
                        • South Dakota

                        #12
                        do you know what kit it was like h1 h3 h4 etc?
                        1979 Eleven Special - 26,000 miles.

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                        • sbrogden
                          XSive
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 19
                          • the Swamp known as Houston

                          #13
                          The kit I bought was supposed to connect to the factory head light connector - I think it's an H3 (3 prongs, oriented in a fashion I can't replicate here). The kit arrived with the wrong connector, so I cut their connector off and attached to each of the 3 wires a male connector blade to insert into the stock connector.

                          It was in response to my email about the connector that the supplier sent me a better schematic and instructions to do what I had already done.

                          If you like, I will post the schematic later today, after I get home.
                          sbrogden
                          '80 XS850SG
                          http://brogdensmuse.menofhonorministry.org/

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                          • firecrackerboom
                            XSive
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 81
                            • South Dakota

                            #14
                            thatd be great
                            1979 Eleven Special - 26,000 miles.

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                            • sbrogden
                              XSive
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 19
                              • the Swamp known as Houston

                              #15
                              Turns out I can't post attachments in this forum so I don't know how to post the schematic. If yuo PM me with an email address, I'll send it to you.
                              sbrogden
                              '80 XS850SG
                              http://brogdensmuse.menofhonorministry.org/

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