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    Having ridden "The Tardis" for the 21 years (78-99) I had the machine on the road, I was always particularly interested in how the Police could manipulate their m/cycles so effectively. I must admit, this was emphasized by my neighbour, Chris, at every opportunity, as he is an ex Police pursuit guy, on his ex Police K1100LT. He also takes corners verrrry different to me.....but that's another story.
    My initial ride on his K1100Lt, along with my son, whilst he and his son rode "The Tardis", spelt the death knell of my time traveller. Talk about a different generation of m/bike. That led to a test ride on a BMW K1200LT-C, which almost instantaneously followed the purchase of the same machine.

    The K1200LT-C is about 130kgs heavier than my XS, and has this "top heavy" syndrome at low speeds, attached to it. Soooooo many new K12 owners have promptly dropped the brand new machine, almost on the dealer's front tarmac.

    This aggrevated Chris to no end, such that he wrote the following, which I posted to the K12 site. It was/is of invaluable use to the K12 guys, and may help someone here.................


    Tips for BMW riders wishing to do nice, tight U turns, without resorting to the humiliation of:

    your passenger having to get off the bike;
    dropping your pride and joy;
    paddling your feet on the ground like you are riding a child's tricycle;
    wobbling around like a learner rider;
    driving around and around town until you can find a roundabout;
    driving around two entire blocks, so as to reverse your direction.

    This is the technique that the NSW Police pursuit motorcyclists utilise to
    do U turns, whether it is on their K1100LT, their Harley Road King, or their Honda 1500. Bear in mind they have around 100kg (220lbs) of equipment on board, which would equate to a pillion passenger in most books....

    This technique will turn your cycle around in a two lane road, leaving about 1.8m or 6 feet to spare. Interested? Read on....

    The key to making nice, tight U turns is centripetal force. Remember that expression from your high school physics days? It is the force you can feel when you hold a spinning top, and try to move it suddenly. The top resists - the faster you spin it, the more resistance you feel. To make centripetal force work to your advantage, you induce spin into your engine components by revving the motor. Not blipping the throttle, but by running up to, and holding at around 2,500 RPM. The centripetal force exerted by your spinning engine components under these conditions is considerable -
    more than enough to hold you, your bike, your pillion and luggage upright whilst you manoeuver through your turn.

    The steps to follow are:

    1) Pull to side of road and stop.
    2) Check mirrors for traffic approaching from the rear
    3) Check for oncoming traffic
    4) Signal your intention to turn
    5) RPM to 2500 and hold it there.
    6) Clutch out until begins to engage and move off. Do not fully release -
    allow to slip only. BOTH FEET UP.
    7) Control your speed by using the rear brake ONLY, and continuing to
    slip the clutch
    8) **KEEP YOUR HEAD UP - LOOK TO WHERE YOU WANT TO GO** Failure to do so
    will result in you leaning the bike, which means you are approaching
    fall-over territory at low speeds.
    9) Did I say KEEP YOUR HEAD UP? Well, I'm saying it again. KEEP YOUR HEAD UP.
    10) Using the rear brake to control your speed, come to full lock and begin your turn. KEEP YOUR HEAD UP, and aim to turn at about walking speed.
    11) KEEP YOUR HEAD UP - control your speed with the rear brake – maintain engine speed.
    12) Accomplished riders do not even need to take their feet off the pegs to execute this manoeuver, especially if they keep their head you-know-where.
    13) After you have completed your graceful U turn, allow the clutch to engage fully and ride off into that sunset, to the admiration of onlookers and other lesser riders that have witnessed your skill and precision.

    GUIDE FOR RELUCTANT DAREDEVILS

    If you are not-so-sure you can do this, try a little practise. A good venue is a car-park, where you can go nice and slow and get the hang of slipping the clutch and riding the rear brake at the same time. When you are making a U turn, you should do it at about walking speed or less - at 2500 RPM this can only be achieved by the use of both clutch-slip and rear brake. Try a few low speed figure 8 turns, wide at first, then approaching full-lock.
    You will be able to do full-lock (bars against the tank) U turns in either direction with practise.

    Get in the habit of keeping your feet up on the pegs, so as you develop your balance and make use of the centripetal forces generated by using the motor. (Cops call feet-down riders 'paddle-foots', and feel it is a sign of only limited ability to control the motor cycle)

    A few of you are saying - slip the clutch! NEVER!! Believe me, the cost of replacing a worn clutch is much LESS than that of replacing a busted fairing. (my K1100LT has 60,000km on it and the original clutch is holding up just fine. The first 40,000km were spent as a low speed Police escort cycle)

    SUMMARY

    -HEAD UP HEAD UP HEAD UP HEAD UP
    -ENGINE SPEED CONSTANT THROUGHOUT TURN @ 2500RPM (higher if you want even more stability)
    -WALKING SPEED BY SLIPPING THE CLUTCH AND RIDING THE REAR BRAKE
    -FEET UP AND ON THE PEGS
    -CHECK FOR TRAFFIC IN BOTH DIRECTIONS BEFORE YOU START YOUR TURN -HEAD...........UP


    Phill

  • #2
    uh oh

    Nice, Phill!

    Gary, you don't suppose he's gearing up for a KLT thread here
    do you? Think the Bandit thread might have some competition?

    ......naaahhhhhhh

    only kidding Phill

    Let's see, Chuck Wildman, and uh any other XSives with a KLT?
    Too sad I am no longer a member of the very exclusive XJ, Bandit, KLT club
    Mike * Seattle * 82 F'n'XJ1100 *

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    • #3
      Sheila and I spent a good part a weekend practicing exactly this kind of slow speed manoeuvering when we took a 'Safety Council' licenced rider's course. By noon on the first day, my left forearm was aching from holding the clutch just at the friction point while controlling speed with the rear brake. Once you find that sweet spot, and get used to 'heads up look where you want to go", it all comes together. More than once I had the handlebars cranked well back over the gas tank.

      The toughest exercise was a 'keyhole' turn where you come in through a gate on one side of a square box, swing 'full lock' to one side, 'full lock' to the other side, then 'full lock' the first side again to go back out the same gate you came in. This is done with the box set only a few metres wider than the bike's absolute minimum turning radius.
      Ken Talbot

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      • #4
        Slow U-turns

        Great info, Phil.. Much appreciated. But there's one point I'm not sure of: You want we should keep our Heads up??? j/k. This is excellent information to have. Thanks for passing it along.
        I'm the Person my Parents Warned me about.

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        • #5
          way to go Phill

          Phill's post is now an official Riding Tip posted Here

          Phill, you are the first member of the new forum to have submitted a full Tech Tip. Thank you!
          Mike * Seattle * 82 F'n'XJ1100 *

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          • #6
            Mr Mike H,
            when are you gonna lift yer lid so that we can all see what you look like????????

            Nahhhhh don't tell me ...you have a "Darth Vader" fixation.

            Methinks I'm gona have to compile some face to imprint on the front of your signature Avatar...

            Phill

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            • #7
              Phill, you can see my ugly mug way too often in all the PNW ride reports I've posted
              Mike * Seattle * 82 F'n'XJ1100 *

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