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    I recently horse-traded my XS1100SG for a 1990 ZX-10. I'll post some pics up later as I don't have access to my home network at this moment. It's got custom silver painted fiberglass bodywork and a red powder coated aluminum frame.

    Specs:

    570lbs wet
    1000cc liquid-cooled, carbureted inline four
    137hp@10k with 11k redline
    6-speed
    165+mph top speed (not sure if it's drag or gear limited)
    41-45 mpg so far
    5.8 gallon fuel capacity

    The ZX-10 could probably be thought of as one of Kawasaki's first 'supersport' bikes. It was the Hayabusa before the Hayabusa, or the Blackbird before the Blackbird. It's pretty much the great grand-daddy to the current ZX-14R offering.

    As a comparison to the XS I've enjoyed the far greater range offered by the increased fuel capacity and mileage (about 250miles between fill-ups). The brakes are massively more effective, though outdated by modern standards. I really enjoy the seating position. It's a 3/4 tilt, kind of between a sport-touring and a supersport riding position. With some 1 inch risers the bike will be perfect.

    I'm not a super experienced rider when it comes to riding many brands and types of bikes, so coming off of an old standard to a crotch-rocket is interesting. The '10 is as smooth and quiet at 85mph as the XS was at about 55mph. The ability to lean the bike is far greater and as such it will corner on average 15+mph faster (with me, and I'm no moto-gp guy) than my XS would with the same effort. I find it to be less fatiguing to ride. In 3rd gear at freeway speed a slight counter-steer drops the bike right into a lean like nothing I've ever experienced.

    The XS is a pretty low-strung motor, which is it's greatest strength in my opinion. I loved the XS motor. The '10 will absolutely destroy the XS in performance (yes, it's 10 years newer and a supersport bike, not a tourer) on paper and practically, except at low-rpm hard accel. If I had both bikes in 5th gear at 60mph and full-throttled them I have little doubt that the XS would leap in front of the '10 initially. The '10 has to hit at least 6k rpm in order to achieve any kind of appreciable power where the XS has solid power on tap even as low as 3k in my riding style. To pass on the interstate at 70mph the XS required no downshift. The '10 can pass well in 4th at that speed, but 3rd is advisable.

    The '10 will hit 70+ mph in first gear and from a dead stop there is no comparison, the '10 would utterly demolish the XS with anything but a horribly botched launch. On the roll at cruising speed in a cruising gear, the XS just plain has more grunt. Very different animals indeed.

    From a cruising perspective it's entirely rider preference. From a 'sport' or 'performance' perspective the two bikes are worlds apart. That being said, I never came close to utilizing the XS's full potential on the street and I suspect I'll remain further from that point on the '10. Something to consider though, is that the XS was a great bike to chill out on, leisurely cruise. The '10 BEGS for speed. It's like speeding is mandatory. It takes a lot of conscious effort on my part to not be going 20 over. On the XS I was a slow rider, a 55 in a 60 kind of guy. I was content with that as I ride my bikes to relax, not to piss-off other drivers or be a dill-weed. The vast difference in performance and feel between the two makes all the difference in the world. I now have a new found respect for polite sport-bike riders as I understand more and more how hard it is not to fly by everything all the time.

    The '10 needed a lot of work to get up to snuff. I do all my own work as I am a trade-school edjumacated auto-mechanic. It needed a new temp sensor, the t-stat housing re-grounded, three coolant flushes (two with dish-washing-machine detergent, one plain water, I had to find and fit a new upper radiator hose (made from a Goldwing hose as zx10 hoses are now unobtanium), fork seals and oil, installed a K&N air filter, sync'd the carbs (with the home-made vacuum-gauge/aquarium valve sync tool courtesy of the XS11's totally awesome tech section), replaced the front brake-light switch, swapped out all DOT4 fluids, full brake and suspension inspection, added a NEP cruise control, iridium spark plugs (good for life), and probably a bunch of other stuff I forgot. I still need to re-do the plug wires (I band-aided one, works for now) and remove the exhaust system to repair a potential crack at the crossover. Could just be a burned-out seal as well. Either way, it's coming off after the summer as the leak is small.

    I have never done fork seals before and was a bit surprised at how easy it was. The first one took me about 35 minutes as I try to be very careful whilst figuring things out. I tend to break stuff if I'm not extra careful. The second one was probably done in ten minutes or less. No special tools required if you have an impact wrench.

    Anyway, that's a brief comparison. the XS was and is a great bike, I was just ready to try something new. So far, I am very happy with that choice as I'm finding the ZX10 to be a lot more my style. Someday I WILL track down an XS1100E, but til then the '10 will be my standard mount.
    1990 Ninja ZX-10. It's the Silver Surfer. HI-YA!!

    2006 Yamaha XT-225. Yep, I take it on the interstate. It's Blue Butt.

    1982 Toyota 4x4. 22R Cammed, 38/38, 2" pipe, 20R head with OS valves, performance grind and other fun stuff. It's Blue RASPberry.

    1969 Ford F-250 Camper Special resto project. 390 RV cam, Demon carb, Sanderson headers, 2 and a quarter pipes with Magnaflow mufflers. It's Blue Jay.

  • #2
    I can only imagine your surprise if you compared a modern sport bike to your Ninja. I don't find the switch between my modern bikes and my XS's to be that much of a difference. Braking is about the only thing that's hard to adjust too.
    1979 XS1100F
    2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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    • #3
      jimbyjimb, nice find and good work on the Kwacker!

      You want to try something fun? Borrow an R6 or even a Ninja 250 to go out for a ride and do some canyon-carving, then get back on your XS11, Ian, or your ZX-10, Jimby. Stay out of parking lots because other drivers won't have a sense of humor if you gack their paint and this is supposed to be fun but make a couple of full turns and do some figure-eights to get reacquainted with your trusty steed at low speed, then go out and run the same roads again.

      .
      -- Scott
      _____

      2004 ST1300A: No name... yet
      1982 XJ1100J: "Baby" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
      1980 XS1100G: "Columbo" SS Brakes, '850 FD, ACCT
      1979 XS1100SF: "Bush" W.I.P.
      1979 XS1100F: parts
      2018 Heritage Softail Classic 117 FLHCS SE: "Nanuk" It's DEAD, it's not just resting. It is an EX cycle.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by IanDMacDonald View Post
        I can only imagine your surprise if you compared a modern sport bike to your Ninja. I don't find the switch between my modern bikes and my XS's to be that much of a difference. Braking is about the only thing that's hard to adjust too.
        Oh yeah, 180+hp and under 500lbs, OY! I'll never make full use of the 140 the ZX10 has, let alone 40 more on a bike 100lbs lighter. ABS would be nice though. My '10 (with an experienced rider) would trail behind a new 600cc supersport about .3-.5 seconds in the quarter and 15+ mph top end, not to mention all the handling and aerodynamic advancements and electronic engine management. Good thing most new supersport bikes come with adjustable power settings...

        Would be fun to try one out though. A 600 revving out at 17k RPM has a certain appeal. I think I'd be more of a ZX14R or Hayabusa type though. Or the new Kawasaki H2 for 15,800 quid.
        1990 Ninja ZX-10. It's the Silver Surfer. HI-YA!!

        2006 Yamaha XT-225. Yep, I take it on the interstate. It's Blue Butt.

        1982 Toyota 4x4. 22R Cammed, 38/38, 2" pipe, 20R head with OS valves, performance grind and other fun stuff. It's Blue RASPberry.

        1969 Ford F-250 Camper Special resto project. 390 RV cam, Demon carb, Sanderson headers, 2 and a quarter pipes with Magnaflow mufflers. It's Blue Jay.

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        • #5


          Last edited by jimbyjimb; 06-18-2015, 03:55 PM.
          1990 Ninja ZX-10. It's the Silver Surfer. HI-YA!!

          2006 Yamaha XT-225. Yep, I take it on the interstate. It's Blue Butt.

          1982 Toyota 4x4. 22R Cammed, 38/38, 2" pipe, 20R head with OS valves, performance grind and other fun stuff. It's Blue RASPberry.

          1969 Ford F-250 Camper Special resto project. 390 RV cam, Demon carb, Sanderson headers, 2 and a quarter pipes with Magnaflow mufflers. It's Blue Jay.

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          • #6
            I had the 10s predecessor 1989 gpz 1000 rx for 7 years did 65000 miles on it and it never missed a beat, good old buses but look the same as everything else,wanted something different so got the xs, you won't be disappointed tho
            79SF
            xjr ohlins shocks, tarozzi forkbrace, bsa handlebars, bsm exhaust

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            • #7
              I wish I had a GPZ in the stable.
              '79 XS11 F
              Stock except K&N

              '79 XS11 SF
              Stock, no title.

              '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
              GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

              "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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              • #8
                I'd be interested in seeing how that Suzy I just bought and that Kawk compare?
                1979 XS1100F
                2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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                • #9
                  Imho the kwak was more sport and the suzi more tour, mainly because of seating position but also power delivery as kwaks were the fastest prod bikes. The thousand wasn't the best as the 900r preceded and superseded it along side the 10. The sushi is a more tunable motor as most street fighters will testify, the kwaks being already there stock. Gsx is the detuned gsxr1100 hyperbike engine so plenty of potential.
                  79SF
                  xjr ohlins shocks, tarozzi forkbrace, bsa handlebars, bsm exhaust

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                  • #10
                    Congrats on your "new" Kawi!

                    Yes, those were cool, and pretty radical bikes in their day.

                    A couple of months ago, while heading home around 11 pm out on the highway, I came upon a fairly new ZX10R. I was going about 5 mph faster, (in the left lane) than he was. Just cruised by him slowly on my 2011 Concours14, and waved to him as I passed.

                    Got about 50 yards ahead of him, when I heard him nail it, and saw his headlight lurch upward in my mirror. Instantly, I dropped from 6th to 4th, and pinned it.
                    He got right up beside me for a little bit, and and then he was a memory that once was. I let up after about a mile, and he was WAY back there.

                    Made me get all giggly inside.

                    But, I gotta watch out as of late. Unbelievable how many sport bikes weighing 250#'s less than mine have 200 RWHP this year! (And the new Yamaha R1 is one of them!)

                    Those ZX12R's are a force to be reckoned with, and totally forget about the ZX14R! My Connie and that bike may share the same DNA, but there's enough internal design differences, and weight differences between the two, that after about a 5 count, I know my place. By then, I can barely see his tail lights...

                    Same engine and transmission, totally different tuning. Mine has around 150 RWHP, the ZX14R is 202. Weighs around 200#'s less. Mine tops out around 156 mph (cpu limited, can be eliminated with a Guhl's flash...) the ZX14R's around 202 mph. Unbelievable! I almost bought one the day I bought mine new. They were sitting side by side on the showroom floor. ZX14R was actually cheaper than mine. It was a tough decision... For about a minute. Then I sat on the ZX14R... not exactly a bike you wanna tour on, (although a few actually do.)
                    '82 XJ1100J Maxim (has been sold.)

                    '79 F "Time Machine"... oh yeah, Baby.... (Sold back to Maximan)

                    2011 Kaw Concours 14 ABS

                    In the warden's words from Cool Hand Luke;
                    "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

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                    • #11
                      Thanks!

                      The ZX is a great bike. I like it a lot and have ridden more this year already than I did the previous two. I think next year I'll probably sell it in an attempt to move up to a KTM 990 adventure, depending on availability. I've always wanted a V twin in a chassis other than a Ducati or HD and the 990 is still the most capable literbike off-road. I'm sad when I drive by a dirt road on my street bike that looks fun.

                      I've been all over Western Washington and Oregon, next year will be time to try some adventure touring.

                      In the meantime I'm riding the ZX a ton. It took a bit to get used to the bovine looks of the machine but now I find it rather fetching. I removed the dog ear mirrors and installed bar-end mirrors which are a huge improvement. I also have an aluminum cooling fan to install when I drop the pipes later this year.
                      1990 Ninja ZX-10. It's the Silver Surfer. HI-YA!!

                      2006 Yamaha XT-225. Yep, I take it on the interstate. It's Blue Butt.

                      1982 Toyota 4x4. 22R Cammed, 38/38, 2" pipe, 20R head with OS valves, performance grind and other fun stuff. It's Blue RASPberry.

                      1969 Ford F-250 Camper Special resto project. 390 RV cam, Demon carb, Sanderson headers, 2 and a quarter pipes with Magnaflow mufflers. It's Blue Jay.

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