Project xs1100

[Metrichop]

Sup fellas just stopping to say hello. Brian D pointed me to this site from another, I was kinda wondering around in circles looking for chain conversion info. He was kinda enough to send me in your direction, you'll never get rid of me now lol. Anyways here is what I got going on I have an 80 model XS1100 that I'm chopping literally. I removed the sub-frame and will be removing the backbone today some time, going with inverted forks stretched out hardtail with a 200-230mm rear tire, jackshaft with RSD (right side drive) Anyways here is pics of what I have done sofar.

[xschop]

be original

That will be a new feat, definitely cool...

[scoobes]

hi and welcome,looking very good so keep the photo`s coming as we like loads of photos on here....do you want to sell you exaust pipes as they look very solid so can have have first refusall.here is a link that you might like http://www.benefiscal.co.uk/forum/in...p?topic=2397.0 it has got the nicest chain drive conversion i have seen....

[Brian_D]

time-table

welcome Metrichop.

from what I remember, you picked up the bike only two days ago? you've made more progress in 2 days than I've made in over [cough] [cough]

keep up the work and don't forget to update this thread so I can ask questions of you

[Metrichop]

Re: time-table

Originally posted by Brian_D
welcome Metrichop.

from what I remember, you picked up the bike only two days ago? you've made more progress in 2 days than I've made in over [cough] [cough]

keep up the work and don't forget to update this thread so I can ask questions of you

Lol yup, fast mover, The suzuki intruder in the background of the pics will be my wifes when the xs is done so she's pushing to hurry up and get a move on, lol you know the saying if momma is happy everyones happy, lol.

[Metrichop]

Well I managed to get the backbones out, The neck was at 60 degrees prior to cutting it moved to 58-59 degrees no big deal I suppose. I also removed the swingarm. I should have the engine out in afew minutes. Here is some pics.

[Metrichop]

Well I got the motor out, everything is seperate from each other. Going to build the frame stand and a crude jig to hold it in place.

[pggg]

Most racebike/trackbike chaindrive XS's look to have either stepped out, short modified middle drive shafts, or else they're stock shafts - with 'expendable' bearings - replaced often? Unlike your street XS with it's long drive unit shaft which needs a bearing support on the end for road/street longevity if using it as a chaindrive unit. A cut down stock shaft would limit tyre width if not stepped out to the left, so you're lookin' at a whole new drive unit shaft design, Chop's on that case now...

Meanwhile my 'homemade' dunger chain unit is still churning out the miles no probs at all, great performance, and the O-ring 530 chains are brilliant nowadays, hasn't needed adjusting at all for 12 months or so, using a 160 radial, good for looks and corners, front tyre a 110 crossply, the radial/crossply mismatch is actually not a mismatch as the bike handles better than before, Met, your jackshaft setup sounds interesting...

[Metrichop]

Originally posted by pggg
Most racebike/trackbike chaindrive XS's look to have either stepped out, short modified middle drive shafts, or else they're stock shafts - with 'expendable' bearings - replaced often? Unlike your street XS with it's long drive unit shaft which needs a bearing support on the end for road/street longevity if using it as a chaindrive unit. A cut down stock shaft would limit tyre width if not stepped out to the left, so you're lookin' at a whole new drive unit shaft design, Chop's on that case now...

Meanwhile my 'homemade' dunger chain unit is still churning out the miles no probs at all, great performance, and the O-ring 530 chains are brilliant nowadays, hasn't needed adjusting at all for 12 months or so, using a 160 radial, good for looks and corners, front tyre a 110 crossply, the radial/crossply mismatch is actually not a mismatch as the bike handles better than before, Met, your jackshaft setup sounds interesting...

I'm going to go the same route you and I believe audi did? (In regards to the chain conversion) with a jack shaft in the mix for putting the chain on the oposite side. It's a learning experience for me mainly.

[Brian_D]

definitely not the first time

making xscellent progress...like to see some pics of the stand and jig.

haven't scrapped the cut pieces of frame yet have you? if you won't be needig them, I may be interested in buying the left and right side pivot sections.

[Metrichop]

Re: definitely not the first time

Originally posted by Brian_D
making xscellent progress...like to see some pics of the stand and jig.

haven't scrapped the cut pieces of frame yet have you? if you won't be needig them, I may be interested in buying the left and right side pivot sections.

I still have everything just in case peeps needed something, I still have what your looking for shoot me a pm.

[Metrichop]

Well I built my bike/work stand today and picked up some material for my jig, I changed my mind on the frame and will only be useing the neck. Need to do some homework on rake and trail dont want the high speed wobbles (10 pucker factor) if you have ever had them. I'm at work will post pics in the A.M.

[Brian_D]

so whats the new frame plans? and what is your desired rake angle? in stock form, the 11 has ~ 29.5 degrees of rake - I'm still on the fence on increasing my 79F RS project to ~33 degrees but still retain the stock front end.

[Metrichop]

Originally posted by Brian_D
so whats the new frame plans? and what is your desired rake angle? in stock form, the 11 has ~ 29.5 degrees of rake - I'm still on the fence on increasing my 79F RS project to ~33 degrees but still retain the stock front end.

I must be putting my degree wheel on the neck wrong? I get 60 degrees of rake, at anyrate it will be around 35-40 degrees when all said and done. This is the first frame I have atempted to build so it should be a bigtime learning expereince to say the least.

[Metrichop]

Originally posted by Brian_D
so whats the new frame plans? and what is your desired rake angle? in stock form, the 11 has ~ 29.5 degrees of rake - I'm still on the fence on increasing my 79F RS project to ~33 degrees but still retain the stock front end.

Here is a crude draft of what I'm shooting for, never mind the wheels are not in perspective but you get the idea,lol.
Ooops I forgot to download the pic lolololololol