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    So over my holidays, with the XS in the shop (due to lack of time I either had to pay someone to build my deck or fix my bike, I choose the cheaper option) I rented a 2006 Roadking for 5 days. I've driven almost everything out there BUT an HD so I was looking forward to it. Here's my thoughts.

    When I first picked up the bike I was taken aback by how nice-looking it was. You have to give the HD folks credit, they make some sharp looking bikes. I don't care what you say, there is an intangible there that the metric cruisers have tried to copy but can't quite get right. I call it the "power ranger" factor. On the metric cruisers they always do something goofy somewhere that reminds you of where the bike came from. The RK was just clean, visually I loved it.

    The bike felt a little heavy and cumbersome at first but at the end of the 5 days I was pretty comfortable with it. I took an open face helmet, something else I never do. Was a little freaked out at first, but got used to it.

    As soon as I pulled away from the dealership at the first set of lights I opened it up and well....blah. I was pretty dissapointed with the lack of power. At the dealer's they went on at length about the torque. I didn't get it. Even after 5 days the bike always felt underpowered, if I bought one I'd have to tweak it a lot because the metric cruisers just bring more to the table in the power department.

    As the 5 days progressed the bike grew on me, despite the wonky ergos, kickstand too far away, handlebars not quite right, etc. I don't like heel-toe shifters but got used to this one soon enough.

    The best part about the bike was the reaction from folks all of who gave the big thumbs up and I waved at everyone on a bike, regardles of what they were driving.

    Gas mileage too gets a big thumbs up. I flogged on this thing for 5 days and it used hardly any gas. Maybe two tanks?

    On the downside, in addition to the lack of power, was having to talk to idiots who loved Harley's but didn't actually own one. Listening to them you'd think the damn things could fly and wipe your butt for you. I loved the look on their faces when they'd ask me how I liked the bike and I'd say "it's ok, but not something I'd buy new" was classic. Toothless mouths would gape, knuckles dragging on the ground would twitch, you get the idea, I had whizzed in the holy grail.

    Again, I have to point out that it wasn't Harley riders who were idiots, it was Harley wannabes who know nothing about motorcycles in general.

    Anyway, I brought it back after 5 days what I said, I will probably buy one, an old one, just to tool around on and tell all the wannabes what they don't want to hear. "I have a $1200 Yamaha at home that I like driving more". Owning one gives me the right to say stuff like that. And it's not to say I didn't like the HD, I just wouldn't pay for a new one and wouldn't have one if I could only own 1 bike.

    Still, it was cool to ride, cool to talk about, did grow on me, and let's face it, that's EXACTLY what is being sold. How else is a fat old guy like me going to get fresh-faced young girls to talk to him? So yes, I'll get one, but only if I can keep my XS....

    Lastly, funny self-deprecating story - Never owned a bike with a windshield before and never had an open face helmet before. I live in the country and decided to take the shield off the rental and go for a tour. I felt sooooo cool till I hit the highway and had to turn around because of the contant pelting of june-bugs and who knows what else on my face. I actually saw one large bug lazily drifting in the air for a few seconds before it hit my right cheek at 60 miles an hour. Now I know.

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    Wife and I rented an 2005 UltraGlide Classic for a week at Christmas last year. I have to say I liked almost everything about the bike except it did feel underpowered compared to my dressed out 78E. I also felt that the Vetter fairing on my bike gave better protection.
    It had some very nice features including weather band radio built in as part of the sound system. What a great idea for a bike. The cruise control was probally the best I've ever used on any kind of vehicle.
    But lets compare around$19k for the HD or the $1200 total, including a set of tires, for my 78E. I let my check book decide.
    78E ... Gone but not forgotten
    2006 Kawasaki Concours....just getting to know it

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    • #3
      my dad has a 94 tourglide.. fullbags ,faring and such.. the only things he has done to his is change cams for more torque riding two up, carb and pipes.. he didnt lose much mileage but when we ride together, i have to crank on the throttle to keep up with him.. he definatly has the torque to move that 850lb bike. I rode it to Texsive lite with swmbo.. she got a good laugh out of me singing at the top of my lungs to the radio.
      Shawn
      78 XS1100E "Black Rat"
      78 XS1100E Parts
      www.hotrod1972.com

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      • #4


        .. impressions are good, i've got one i would like share also.
        i ride these things all day for a livin, so what, right? it beats being a dish washer [although the pay isnt much better]. in the past i have not been real impressed with this type of cycle, but i gotta say that this years bikes[07] are some pretty darn nice ones!
        the power to weight ratio is starting to become more equal. the new 96 inch motors with the [stock]free flowing exhaust and the super smooth and seemless fuel injection have added quite a kick to these bikes! it has a real kickin stereo and the new exhaust sounds perfect. i never got it up into 6th gear, but i'm sure that is a real good option also. the 07 that i rode first was the one in the picture, the FLHX Street Glide. if i could afford to, i think i would buy one of those, it's just a real nice bike.
        .. but the good news is, i will never be able to afford one and if by some feak chance i could [as mentioned before]it would not be the only bike in my garage.

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        • #5
          I guess my biggest problems with HD's is not really with the bikes but with a lot of the riders. They are a fine machine,they do what they are designed to do, but there are also a lot of other bikes that are the same way. I just get a little tired when the HD riders look down on everyone else. If I was going to buy a "touring" bike the UltraGlide would be at the top of the list. I've ridden a new Goldwing and to me they aren't even a bike anymore. Just a single track convertible. The UltraGlide is still a motorcycle, in my opion, and would be a bike that I would not mind taking cross country.
          Just another thought...I wonder how many HD chopper wannabe's or the Japanese clones are going to be for sale in a few years after the "West Coast Chopper" craze goes away. In my job I get into a lot of homes. A lot of them have these kinds of bikes that are 2 to 3 years old ,with just a couple of thousand miles on them. They seem to have been bought as a fasion statement instead of being riden. What a waste. Just a thought.
          78E ... Gone but not forgotten
          2006 Kawasaki Concours....just getting to know it

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          • #6
            If an HD is your thing thats fine with me, but like everyone says, the wannabees are the problem. Most of them seem to look down on you because you don't ride an HD. In my limited experience, the HD riders that I have talked to will respect any classic bike. I pulled into an HD dealer one day to pick up some stuff and when I came out there were a few HD riders standing around my 80G and my dad's 79F. MY first thought was to leave as fast as possible until one guy complemented us. The next guy's comment was, "that's retro man." I think as long as you take care of what you have and respect your bike, most other people will respect you. Since I am still in high school and I don't have time for a part-time job, cutting lawns is my only source of income. making an XS the perfect bike. Even when I have enough to buy an HD, I am still going to stick with my XS. Don't get me wrong, HD's are good machines, but I like XS's more. They are certainly better for your wallet to.
            United States Merchant Marine Academy, Kings Point, NY
            If I can do it at 18 yrs old, anyone can
            "You know something, You can't polish a turd"
            "What are you rebelling against", "Well, what do you got?"
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            • #7
              Happened to me twice.

              Like HobbyMan said, its not so much the bike as the riders. Twice so far I have been complimented on my 79 Special by Harley riders. But most of the time they just look right through you like you are not there. Still, most HD's are fine machines and should be appreciated for that, just like most XS's. The XS's are all old bikes now and should be appreciated by all riders for a machine that was ahead of its time....and in many ways still are.

              So, I appreciate a Harley and would love to have one in addition to my XS. It is just a shame thay are all so over priced! But make no mistake, when I pull up next to a harley rider and they do not even acknowledge that I am there, a simple twist of the fast handle solves that problem. They usually find a reason to turn off before the next stoplight, especially if their girlfriend is on the back.
              Mike Giroir
              79 XS-1100 Special

              Once you un-can a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is with a bigger can.

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              • #8
                Oops, sorry, I forgot my harley rideing experience in my previous post.

                A friend has a 92 (or so) sportster and I had the opportunity to ride it for a weekend while I was bike sitting for him. Granted, it was not like a road king or other top of the line HD but it was a fun machine to ride. It handled fairly well and the power was in the OK department (probably due to the low weight of the bike). And you get plenty of waves on the highway.

                But in the overall analysis, not worth the bucks he paid for it.
                Mike Giroir
                79 XS-1100 Special

                Once you un-can a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is with a bigger can.

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                • #9
                  I do a lot of riding with the PGR and most of those guys are HD guys. The Battle Cruiser draws a lot of comment, all of it good. I used to have a problem with Harley guys til I started riding with these guys.


                  From Jeffe
                  They seem to have been bought as a fasion statement instead of being riden.
                  One of the PGR riders I ride with regularly has the following sticker on the back of his Sportster "It used to be about the bikes, now it's just F _ _ _ _ _' Fashion Show" That's why I love my XS, it's still about the bikes.
                  Papa Gino

                  79 and something XS 1100 Special "Battle Cruiser"
                  78 XT 500 "Old Shaky"
                  02 Kawasaki Concours "Connie"

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                  • #10
                    My SWMBO & I just got back from Fort Lauderdale last night, monday we & another couple rented a couple of Heritage Softtail Classics & took a ride down through the everglades. I must say I really liked the ride & feel of the bike. The power seemed to be less than what I expected though. I had to get used to no tach, there were times where I shifted a little early, and it seemed a little bogged down. My XS in those situations still easily gets back to speed. Two years ago, we rented, I got a Gold Wing, my buddy a Road King. At first, I was a little jealous that he got the harley, but after riding for a while, he said it vibrated a little too much. I didn't feel too much this year. My wife didn't care much for the seat, she had a pretty good rash down there when we got back to our resort. As far as getting used to it, I felt more comfortable quicker on the softtail, than I did on the Gold Wing. Thursday, we were talking to another dealer about renting the next time, and when I mentioned that I had a 79 XS, his eyes opened wider, & he just gushed about what a great bike he thought they were. Would I buy one? I think if I got a good deal on a used one, maybe. But I know the price is so much higher because of the name. Still love my baby though! Oh, BTW, 46 degrees really sucked when we got off the plane last night!

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                    • #11
                      Funny you should say that. I rented a Heritage as well a few weeks back, but just for a day. Actually liked it a lot more than the road King. Still gutless and overpriced though. My still consider a used one.

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                      • #12
                        for not riding but a couple of years, I have experienced 3 diff models of HD. 94 ElectraGlide Classic, 2000 heritage softtail, 2005 883 custom. Of course the Electra is the best ride of the 3, and the one I have had the most seat time in. In fact, it may be added to my stable within a year or two when my dad buys a new one. Very comfy, decent torque, still too much vibration, but great for what it was designed for.

                        The softtail would be my next choice. I don't remember much about it except that I liked the handlebar/hand placement of it over any other bike I've ridden...stock bars, wide, and your wrist isn't at an uncomfortable position. Oh, and if you are too aggessive in the twisties, you buy your uncle new floorboards. It was definitely a little less nimble than the xj650 I owned at the time

                        Sportster was fun to put around on. Surprising to me b/c of the rubber mounted motor, it seemed to vibrate the worst of the three (at the handle bars).

                        Would I own them, yes; pay a premium for their HD name no; bitch because I got to ride a cycle (any cycle) that day instead of a cage, no stinkin way man.

                        The XS isn't the fastest bike, nor the most comfortable for touring, nor the best handling for twisties, but it is a SOLID performer in all three categories which is why there will always be (at least) one in my garage.
                        Yamaniac
                        '79 xs11 sf - WidowMaker, 750 final drive
                        '80 xs1100 sg- ENEMY#1 parts bike no title(free)
                        '79 f- frame and swingarm (and title)
                        '82 yz 490- needs a cylinder, head, & new piston, etc. Got one for sale?
                        '88 Honda cbr600- Running, finally! Training bike for swmbo, maybe a stunt bike for me eventually.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Rented a Harley - impressions

                          Originally posted by Meatloaf How else is a fat old guy like me going to get fresh-faced young girls to talk to him?
                          I've found that since I resurrected my old VW Baja Bug (now with a camo paint job) that at least one cute young girl a week tells me she likes my machine... That never happens with my XS11. It's not like I'm going to get any action out of it but it's pleasing to be noticed...

                          I like the way Sportsters handle. It reminds me a lot of the Nortons I used to ride but at that price, they can keep'em.

                          Geezer
                          Hi my name is Tony and I'm a bikeoholic.

                          The old gray biker ain't what he used to be.

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                          • #14
                            rented a harley

                            Morning.
                            ive riden anumber of harleys in my day also. Friends of course. they would dig me about ownin a rice bike. but they ate humble pie when I had to give them a ride homee. enough said of that. ive riden the fat bob the flh and the nicest harley was a 2003 road king classic. Thats a harley,nice bike and it had that locomotive fell tween your legs.just loved to go and smooth at 120k.did I say smooth???? If i had the cash I suppose Id go the dyna glide base model. Bare bones and clean.It would have to be 15 or 16oo cc though. I need the rush. Suppose I will always compare feature and practicallity to bikes of the day to my XS. My nieghbour just bought a new decker. 30 grand!!!!! Has any body test driven the yammy strato liner or nova. Wow blew me away. Thing I like about the xs is the raw grunt. Yes I cant catch the ninja and thats abike ultra smooth scare your butt off. Techno unbeleieveable. but would you like the lexus 300 horse or the 69 camaro rs ss 300 horse?? Thats just how I weigh it. I guess I like old stuff that works and some new stuff that is so close to the stuff.it always surprises me when we meet our little clubs evry couple of weeks or so how many guys are still riding older models that theyve restored, rescued.those bikes have an aura o to them. Even the oil drippin harleys.i chuckle though when the guys go on ,they replaced this modified that which is basically everything. I dont havelong list of replacements for my bike, just afew upgrades.
                            I can always tell the guys who ride harleys that have had jap bikes. They wave. and yes I wave at everyone too.even on my little loaner cruises of my buds HD.funny i havent seen many 78/79 harleys around. Id only say that if i wanted to be smug.
                            nip.

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                            • #15
                              Part of the reason that you don't see HD's of that particular age is because of the company ownership. I don't know about the subject, but as I understand, HD's weren't near the quality then as they are today. I believe that the original owner sold the company and the new owners(AMF) almost ran the company into bankruptcy. Then they sold it back to the original owner's son or relative and he took it where it is today. So during that time period, the Jap bikes were of superior quality. My Dad told me that he wanted a HD in 79, but the quality was soo bad that he bought a Yamaha in stead. Since the Asain bikes were competing for the market, as a result, quality and power were better. After about 10 years when an inport tax was placed on Jap bike over 700cc and management changed again(I believe), then the quality began to increase to its current level.
                              United States Merchant Marine Academy, Kings Point, NY
                              If I can do it at 18 yrs old, anyone can
                              "You know something, You can't polish a turd"
                              "What are you rebelling against", "Well, what do you got?"
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