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    Hi, I just bought a beautiful new seat cover/cushion to put on the pan I already have (79 special)... I found the old cover/cushion had been glued on, and it took me a while to get the glue off... anyway, can someone tell me if you are supposed to glue the new cushion in? and if so, with what? PS anyone who needs a cushion, let me know... I think it could be recovered OK... I also have an old Special seat, new cover, but rust in the pan, if anyone needs it...
    Dr. Tim Walters

    Florida Atlantic University
    The Rats
    Full Flight Foundation, Inc.

    "just put the trumpet down and slowly back away..."

    "owned by a 79 XS1100 Special"

  • #2
    the seats on a standard are not glued on
    they are just held on by the little
    prongs around the edges of the seat pan

    they prob glued it on, because some of the prongs broke off

    good luck with it
    later
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    78E main ride, since birth the "good"
    78E Parts, the "bad" fixing up now
    78E Parts the "ugly" maybe next year
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    • #3
      thanks, I was hoping that was true!
      Dr. Tim Walters

      Florida Atlantic University
      The Rats
      Full Flight Foundation, Inc.

      "just put the trumpet down and slowly back away..."

      "owned by a 79 XS1100 Special"

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      • #4
        cover attachment

        Hi Jazzrat,
        like xswilly sez; the dreaded PO glued it on 'cos he had to.
        The foam should just sit there, it's held on by the cover.
        I just got a new seat cover for my BSA. It bypasses the problem of all the spikey things busting off by including a whole package of springsteel clips that hold the new cover to edge of the seat pan. The clips are hidden by a skirt sewn to the cover that folds down over them.
        Fred Hill, S'toon.
        Fred Hill, S'toon
        XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
        "The Flying Pumpkin"

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        • #5
          that sounds like a great solution... my seat cover just has the material, no clips... does anyone know the best way to get it on straight the first time? I am thinking maybe an upholsterer might be the best bet, knowing my clumsiness...
          Dr. Tim Walters

          Florida Atlantic University
          The Rats
          Full Flight Foundation, Inc.

          "just put the trumpet down and slowly back away..."

          "owned by a 79 XS1100 Special"

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          • #6
            I had to reweld some of the supports on a pan. I had to strip the cover and cushion off. But had to be carefull because I had to reuse the same cusion and cover. I found that everything was glued on. Pulled everything apart carefully,( like skinning a dear )
            When I put everything back together, I pulled the cover tight, Drilled a series of 1/8 inch holes at the edge of the pan through the cover and used pop-rivets to hold it all together. Doesn't look bad at all and the next time I have to do a simular job, I'll use the same meathod.
            S.R.Czekus

            1-Project SG (Ugly Rat Bike)(URB)
            1-big XS patch
            1-small XS/XJ patch
            1-XS/XJ owners pin.
            1-really cool XS/XJ owners sticker on my helmet.
            2-2005 XS rally T-shirts, (Bean Blossom, In)
            1-XVS1300C Yamaha Stryker Custom (Mosquito)
            1-VN900C Kawasaki Custom (Jelly Bean)

            Just do it !!!!!

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            • #7
              pop rivets! you are a genius! That's the way I am going to go, I think that will look cool! thanks!
              Dr. Tim Walters

              Florida Atlantic University
              The Rats
              Full Flight Foundation, Inc.

              "just put the trumpet down and slowly back away..."

              "owned by a 79 XS1100 Special"

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              • #8
                I used the pop-rivets on the underside of the seat. I have seen them used on the sides but I don't think that looks good. But,, to each their own.
                S.R.Czekus

                1-Project SG (Ugly Rat Bike)(URB)
                1-big XS patch
                1-small XS/XJ patch
                1-XS/XJ owners pin.
                1-really cool XS/XJ owners sticker on my helmet.
                2-2005 XS rally T-shirts, (Bean Blossom, In)
                1-XVS1300C Yamaha Stryker Custom (Mosquito)
                1-VN900C Kawasaki Custom (Jelly Bean)

                Just do it !!!!!

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                • #9
                  you are probably right, if they are on the inside I also have a little more room for error... and I need room for error!
                  Dr. Tim Walters

                  Florida Atlantic University
                  The Rats
                  Full Flight Foundation, Inc.

                  "just put the trumpet down and slowly back away..."

                  "owned by a 79 XS1100 Special"

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                  • #10
                    S.R.Czekus

                    1-Project SG (Ugly Rat Bike)(URB)
                    1-big XS patch
                    1-small XS/XJ patch
                    1-XS/XJ owners pin.
                    1-really cool XS/XJ owners sticker on my helmet.
                    2-2005 XS rally T-shirts, (Bean Blossom, In)
                    1-XVS1300C Yamaha Stryker Custom (Mosquito)
                    1-VN900C Kawasaki Custom (Jelly Bean)

                    Just do it !!!!!

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                    • #11
                      getting it straight

                      Hi Jazzrat,
                      essentially, you start at the nose & work back.
                      Should you need the instructions I can scan & e-mail them to you.
                      I am at fred650@shaw.ca
                      Fred Hill, S'toon.
                      Fred Hill, S'toon
                      XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                      "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                      • #12
                        thanks for the directions, I finally today looked at using them... it seems to me the end of the material of the back end of the cover is about 3" too short to even come close to working... and yet this is the seat cover for the 79 Special, and the seat pan works fine (it had an old cover on it)... am I missing something?
                        Dr. Tim Walters

                        Florida Atlantic University
                        The Rats
                        Full Flight Foundation, Inc.

                        "just put the trumpet down and slowly back away..."

                        "owned by a 79 XS1100 Special"

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                        • #13
                          Re: new seat question

                          Originally posted by jazzrat2000
                          Hi, I just bought a beautiful new seat cover/cushion to put on the pan I already have (79 special)... I found the old cover/cushion had been glued on, and it took me a while to get the glue off... anyway, can someone tell me if you are supposed to glue the new cushion in? and if so, with what? PS anyone who needs a cushion, let me know... I think it could be recovered OK... I also have an old Special seat, new cover, but rust in the pan, if anyone needs it...
                          I have a 1981 Midnight Special. Will this seat fit it? If so, I'm interested--

                          Mike
                          The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. Psalm 19:1

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jazzrat2000
                            pop rivets! you are a genius! That's the way I am going to go, I think that will look cool! thanks!
                            If you use pop rivits on the bottom of the seat pan you'll have all those tiny points sticking up. They will eventually dig into you as you compress the seat foam.

                            If you use pop rivits on the sides, put washers over the back so rivits have something to grab onto and spread out the load on the cover.

                            Geezer
                            Hi my name is Tony and I'm a bikeoholic.

                            The old gray biker ain't what he used to be.

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                            • #15
                              Yesterday I received my seat cover from JC Whitney for my 80 MN Special.
                              It fits great! Took me about 40 minutes to put it on.
                              The original seat cover was glued in places and took a little work. I didn't glue the new one and I was able to use all the 'spikes' from the seatpan.
                              I saved the original torn-up cover as a pattern for the new replacement. The JCW cover is temporary.
                              I got a quote of $300 for a leather cover with any stitching I want in it. I'll probably go with the original Yamaha MNS 'double-row' stitch. I prefer smooth but I want the bike to remain (mostly) original.
                              Any mods I've made I've kept the original parts (octopus, handlebars, etc.) and are reversable. Now to jinx myself... it still has the original fuseblock and I've diligently checked the fuse holders and they are fine (I gently tried to break them).
                              After removing the dirty, old wax (use ammonia) I polished then rewaxed the paint. SimiChrome worked fine on the black chrome exhaust. The new seat cover makes it look like a new bike.
                              Pat Kelly
                              <p-lkelly@sbcglobal.net>

                              1978 XS1100E (The Force)
                              1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
                              2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
                              1999 Suburban (The Ship)
                              1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
                              1968 F100 (Valentine)

                              "No one is totally useless. They can always be used as a bad example"

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