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  • Losing the battle? NAY!!!

    This is a touchy subject and am not meaning any offense to anyone whatsoever. What, and HOW you remember is your own personal choice, but I was listening to a comedian the other day (Don't know who it was) and he talked about people passing away from cancer and we say they "Lost their battle"... Like the final thing they did was lose. He went on to say that at the precise moment they die, so does the cancer, so isn't it at minimum a draw? I know he was saying these things to be funny, but after a bit of thought on this and losing several loved ones myself, I like to think it would be better to remember them kicking cancer's butt, but it took them sacrificing themselves, like a war hero, to do it. Cancer, by odds, will touch everyone here's lives at some point, So......

    Here's a toast to all those that have kicked cancer's butt and survived or are currently fighting, as well as a posthumous toast to those who have beat it, yet valiantly didn't survive the winning battle. Prayers to all that this has touched, and Merry Christmas everyone.
    Last edited by trbig; 12-19-2013, 10:37 AM.
    Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

    You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

    Current bikes:
    '06 Suzuki DR650
    *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
    '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
    '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
    '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
    '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
    '81 XS1100 Special
    '81 YZ250
    '80 XS850 Special
    '80 XR100
    *Crashed/Totalled, still own

  • #2
    Thanks Tod,
    I like your point of view. Certainly has changed how I will think in the future. Merry Christmas to you.
    Phil
    1981 XS1100 H Venturer ( Addie)
    1983 XJ 650 Maxim
    2004 Kawasaki Concours. ( Black Bear)

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    • #3
      The concept rings through to me Tod. Having lost a great friend at a young age to the disease, as well as my father at a youngish 64, the concept does hit home for me as well. Kick its azz, kick it twice for me dang it!!

      My friend spent 11 years fighting it, and he always told me for him, his job was to keep them from killing him with the treatments. In the end, it was a side effect of a treatment that took him down.
      Life is what happens while your planning everything else!

      When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.

      81 XS1100 Special - Humpty Dumpty
      80 XS1100 Special - Project Resurrection


      Previously owned
      93 GSX600F
      80 XS1100 Special - Ruby
      81 XS1100 Special
      81 CB750 C
      80 CB750 C
      78 XS750

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      • #4
        Thank you for that, Tod ...

        Lost my Mom 8 years ago to heart disease, and a year later lost my Dad to leukemia. To this day, I still think of them every day and the wonderful times we shared together.

        What an interesting perspective you have ... definitely makes you think about living and dying in a different way.

        Again, thanks and Merry Christmas to you, Tod, and to all here.
        Marco

        Current bikes:
        1979 Yamaha XS Eleven Special (SF)
        1979 Honda CBX
        2002 Kawasaki ZRX1200R

        Rest in Peace, Don Glardon (DGXSER) 1966-2014
        WE MISS YOU, DON

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DGXSER View Post
          he always told me for him, his job was to keep them from killing him with the treatments.
          That's a fact right there. I have a friend that HAD cancer and began to go to a traditional healer and in the 6 months or so of being treated by that physician had some internal organs surgically removed and was made deathly sick and lost his hair from chemotherapy. Still had no sign of it letting up.

          He decided to go to a natural healer and was put on a very strict diet. His cancer was GONE within 6 weeks.
          Last edited by BA80; 12-19-2013, 10:18 PM.
          Greg

          Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

          ― Albert Einstein

          80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

          The list changes.

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          • #6
            My father's whole family from cancer, and I am a survivor, and still cancer-free after six long months of radiation. Thank you Tod for that post.
            1979 XS1100F
            2H9 Mod, Truck-Lite LED Headlight, TECHNA-FIT S/S Brake Lines, Rear Air Shocks, TKAT Fork Brace, Dyna DC-I Coils, TC Fuse Block, Barnett HD Clutch Springs, Superbike Handlebars, V-Star 650 ACCT, NGK Irridium Plugs, OEM Exhaust. CNC-Cut 2nd Gear Dogs; Ported/Milled Head; Modded Airbox: 8x8 Wix Panel Filter; #137.5 Main Jet, Viper Yellow Paint, Michelin Pilot Activ F/R, Interstate AGM Battery, 14MM MC, Maier Fairing, Cree LED Fog Lights.

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            • #7
              Win, lose or draw, one thing I can tell you for sure. It's Definitely a Battle.
              1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
              2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

              Woman (well, my wife anyway) are always on Transmit and never Receive.

              "A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be" Albert Einstien.

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              • #8
                Lost both grandparents to cancer.

                Like that perspective, Tod. Good way to look at it.

                Merry Christmas to all.
                Bob
                '82 XJ1100J Maxim (has been sold.)

                '79 F "Time Machine"... oh yeah, Baby.... (Sold back to Maximan)

                2011 Kaw Concours 14 ABS

                In the warden's words from Cool Hand Luke;
                "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

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                • #9
                  http://themetapicture.com/a-real-present-for-christmas/
                  Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                  You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                  Current bikes:
                  '06 Suzuki DR650
                  *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                  '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                  '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                  '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                  '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                  '81 XS1100 Special
                  '81 YZ250
                  '80 XS850 Special
                  '80 XR100
                  *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                  • #10
                    Great way to look at it , having lost my sister to cancer at age 56 after a long hard fought battle, and my father being a survivor, and a good friend going through treatments now. Cancer sucks ! Merry Christmas to you all and may you have a safe fun riding season in 2014.
                    FOXS-XS11SG

                    2009 Suzuki V Strom 650,Adventure in Touring,I call her "Smooth" SW Motech engine guard,Coocase top case w/ LED brake and tail lights,20" MRA touring screen w/adjusable bracket,Grip heaters,fender ex-tender,Givi hard sidebags

                    1980 XS11SG-sold
                    1999 Vulcan classic-sold
                    1982 XJ 650-sold

                    Old is only a state of mind......John

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                    • #11
                      Cancer

                      Mrs Snippets lost her previous husband to cancer. My ex lost her dad to cancer.
                      Ages 55 and 71. Canada's nicest person, an orthopedic surgeon, a friend and neighbour, got a tumor at 47 and died at 49.
                      Unfortunately you get stuck with grumpy old buggers like me, and I will be around for quite a while.
                      Unkle Crusty

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                      • #12
                        Tod,
                        Seeing that little girl holding that sign with her huge smile reminded me just how much I have to be thankful for this year!

                        Reminded me of the old saying;
                        If you think you've got it bad, take a look around you for a moment...

                        Imagine how sucky that would be at her age to be battling for her life...
                        And how great it would be to be told she beat it!

                        I also need not forget my dearly departed mother-in-law. She battled cancer for 10 years. Guess most guys can't say they miss their M-I-L's, but I do.
                        She was one of the best.
                        '82 XJ1100J Maxim (has been sold.)

                        '79 F "Time Machine"... oh yeah, Baby.... (Sold back to Maximan)

                        2011 Kaw Concours 14 ABS

                        In the warden's words from Cool Hand Luke;
                        "What we have here is a failure to communicate."

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                        • #13
                          My Dad !

                          As best he could, most times to way above what I think I would be able to do had me planting roses in his front yard weeks before he passed.
                          He was/is my HERO !!!!!
                          God Bless Him and all of you through this holiday season !!!!!

                          MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL THAT BELIEVE !!!!!
                          76 XS650 C ROADSTER
                          80 XS650 G Special II
                          https://ibb.co/album/icbGgF
                          80 XS 1100 SG
                          81 XS 1100LH/SH DARKHORSE
                          https://tinyurl.com/k6nzvtw
                          AKA; Don'e, UD, Unca Don'e

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                          • #14
                            Thanks Tod, wise words I really need at this time. My mother is currently in this battle and with the holidays I look for positive thoughts to get through.
                            You've just given me a great new way to look at this, a breath of fresh air.
                            Blessings to all this holiday season.
                            XJ1100 Ruby Red
                            XS1100LH "Midnight"
                            1972 MGB Roadster "sold"

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                            • #15
                              There was an interesting autobiographical radio programme on the BBC recently. It was written and narrated by the cancer sufferer himself. His perspective throughout the production was that, when he was diagnosed with cancer, he did not want to go down the almost militaristic mental route of ' fighting' cancer. His point was that it was his own body cells which had developed a problem and not a germ, or a virus from an external source which could be 'fought'. He said he found it helpful to not to use terms such as 'battle against cancer', 'fighting cancer' , 'lost the fight against cancer' 'beat cancer' and so on any more than he would be 'fighting' his own heart in the case of heart disease. He said he found it better to look upon it as cells in his own hitherto faithful, reliable and hardworking body which had somehow received a wrong message and begun dividing like crazy. That, like hair and skin and fingernails, the cells were reproducing but they were doing it when they shouldn't....not with malicious intent to kill him but merely making a valiant effort to do what they had been instructed, wrongly, to do. They were not a foe to be vanquished, or a battle to be lost (or drawn, as per the post above)....just part of him doing the wrong thing. He wasn't pleased about it, of course, and wanted it to stop but he did not perceive his attempting to deal with it as a war on of of his own body, to be won or lost.

                              It altered my perspective on things a bit. As people here know, I lost my mum just over a year ago, and her mother many years before and a grandfather...all to cancer. My girlfriend of 11 years was diagnosed with breast cancer about 18 months ago and she's never once referred to fighting or battling. She just got on with the treatments and things are looking very hopeful for her indeed, God willing. I think, in her case, not mentally going onto a war footing actually helped her. She did undergo chemotherapy and lost her hair, which has now grown back, Herceptin and Tomoxifen too, all provided free of charge, immediately, with wonderful care, by our much maligned and totally amazing National Health System. The Herceptin treatment alone would have cost over $50,000 dollars, not to mention scans, Tomoxifen and removal of the tumour.

                              I don't know how I personally would deal with it, although, statistically, with people living longer, I may have to, as may we all.
                              XS1100F 1980 European model. Standard. Dyna coils. Iridium plugs. XS750 final drive (sometimes). Micron fork brace. Progressive front springs. Geezer regulator/rectifier. Stainless 4 into 2 exhaust. Auto CCT (Venturer 1300) SOLD. New project now on the go. 1980 European model.

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