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  • CRXSi90
    XStremely XSive
    • Jun 2004
    • 400
    • Madison, Wisconsin

    #1

    Vetter Liberator

    I was browsing the Lost Rally thread and saw a picture of the Vetter Liberator fairing installed on an XS11.



    Could someone point me to more pics of that bike? I remember seeing something back a few months ago that it was going to be installed. My initial though is that it was ugly as sin, but it has been growing on me since then.

    I would also like to know how it functions compared to the other fairings out there. My understanding is that it was designed to excel at protecting the rider from the elements, and possibly is the largest fairing to date!

    Thank you!
    '81 XS11H Venturer - holed up in storage while life happened since 07/08/04
    '81 Kawasaki KE175 enduro - 63 mph of smokey fun, now with collector plates!
  • madmax-im
    Master of XSology
    • Sep 2007
    • 6751
    • Southern Comfort...Wendell NC

    #2
    I just did a image search through google for Liberator by Craig Vetter and lots of images pop up...primarily this fairng is for Harley Davidsons...but i see some BMWs as well not sure these are used on any japanese bikes ...
    1980 XS650G Special-Two
    1993 Honda ST1100

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    • natemoen
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      • May 2010
      • 8640
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      #3
      Here is Harry's thread for it.

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      • DiverRay
        Moderator
        • Nov 2004
        • 7603
        • Star, IDAHO

        #4
        Look into the Pacifico that Yamaha put on the '78. I've been behind most of the fairing at one time or another, and I STILL BELIEVE the Pacifico works better than anything else out there for the XS1100. My big complaint about the Vetter design is it's like a barn door going down the road. My top end with a Vetter drops, and my fuel consumption goes up. The Pacifico only lost about 1 MPG and the top speed was close to the same. I used to cruise at 125MPH on I-5 in Can'taffordya back in '78/79, and I still had throttle left if needed.
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        • madmax-im
          Master of XSology
          • Sep 2007
          • 6751
          • Southern Comfort...Wendell NC

          #5
          Originally posted by natemoen
          Wow I never saw that...however I'm not liking the looks of it on an XS1100...I'm sure it works well but its fugly...
          1980 XS650G Special-Two
          1993 Honda ST1100

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          • CRXSi90
            XStremely XSive
            • Jun 2004
            • 400
            • Madison, Wisconsin

            #6
            Thank you. I guess I forgot I was browsing "over there." There's a little historical write-up of the Liberator fairing on Craig Vetter's website.



            The short story is that Craig was commissioned by Harley-Davidson/AMF to design a frame-mounted fairing for their FLH touring bike in the mid-70's.
            We wanted this fairing to offer the most touring protection possible. After all, the FLH was the definitive cross - country cruiser of America, right?
            It still lives on in spirit in the Road Glide, though a little better looking in it's latest incarnation.



            Frame-Mounted Fairing

            The iconic Shark-Nose fairing on the Road Glide® Custom is bolted to the motorcycle frame so it stays put and cuts down the wind with all its might in order to make your ride smooth and easy going. Reputed for extreme performance and a highly distinct style, this fairing is an original in motorcycling history, and stands firm as a defining element of the legendary Harley-Davidson® Road Glide® models.
            hmm...original? anyway....

            I do think the Pacifico fairing is sleek looking and believe you about it's superior overall function. I like this picture of the Pacifico.



            Well, I guess I'll give my standard Vetter fairing a whirl when I get my bike on the road. I gave the carbs a 3rd cleaning today, so hopefully they're ready to go. I almost lost those little washers and gaskets under the idle mixture screws, despite the warnings in the tech tip. I got it figured out before I blew them into the grass, so it's all good!
            '81 XS11H Venturer - holed up in storage while life happened since 07/08/04
            '81 Kawasaki KE175 enduro - 63 mph of smokey fun, now with collector plates!

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            • Bigfoot
              XS-XJ GURU
              • Sep 2005
              • 1422
              • Kansas City, Missouri

              #7
              Yeah, that's my liberator. :-D.
              It definitely gives max protection. Left crandon Wisconsin this morning and it was 39 degrees. I was very happy with it. Gets a little warm when the temp is up though. It should come in handy when I head out to the xs se rally. Lights up the road well especially if I turn on the running lights. Plenty of storage room. I installed 81 standard air forks to handle the extra weight up front.

              It handles pretty good in the wind. Doesn't blow around as much as you would think it would. As far as mileage, it cut it a bit, more so the faster I go. Ran a stretch of 140 miles with Tod today. Averaged 90mph for the most part with a couple passes around 110. Had a bit of a headwind as well. I got 27.5 mph. Following Bob Falter for a tank on the way north we were running at 65 most of the way and I got 34, which is about as good as this bike usually did before the fairing. I will say, I love the 6.5 gallon tank.
              Harry

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              • CRXSi90
                XStremely XSive
                • Jun 2004
                • 400
                • Madison, Wisconsin

                #8
                Cool, thanks for the review of the Liberator. I saw one for sale locally, but it's certainly in rough shape:



                I was kind of tempted to get it, but I've got plenty of other stuff to sort out before I start worrying about fairings.
                '81 XS11H Venturer - holed up in storage while life happened since 07/08/04
                '81 Kawasaki KE175 enduro - 63 mph of smokey fun, now with collector plates!

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                • jwhughes3
                  XS-XJ Guru
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 2798
                  • Home of the Alamo

                  #9
                  Thats a Vindicator not a Liberator - fewer lights! Have not seen one on an XS - as you see the HD sticker on the fairing it was meant for the Harley -

                  Still would be a nice, unusual fairing to have.

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                  • motoman
                    Master of XSology
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 8413
                    • Grand Junction, Colorado

                    #10
                    Originally posted by madmax-im
                    I just did a image search through google for Liberator by Craig Vetter and lots of images pop up...primarily this fairng is for Harley Davidsons...but i see some BMWs as well not sure these are used on any japanese bikes ...
                    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...88.AD0J0fuB-wc
                    C'mon Ben, have some class and think outside the box. That fairing is 'icing on the cake' to finish out a dressed scoot!
                    81H Venturer1100 "The Bentley" (on steroids) 97 Yamaha YZ250(age reducer) 92 Honda ST1100 "Twisty"(touring rocket) Age is relative to the number of seconds counted 'airing' out an 85ft. table-top.

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                    • madmax-im
                      Master of XSology
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 6751
                      • Southern Comfort...Wendell NC

                      #11
                      Originally posted by motoman
                      C'mon Ben, have some class and think outside the box. That fairing is 'icing on the cake' to finish out a dressed scoot!
                      maybe so but as always Brant...YMMV
                      1980 XS650G Special-Two
                      1993 Honda ST1100

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                      • Bigfoot
                        XS-XJ GURU
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 1422
                        • Kansas City, Missouri

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jwhughes3
                        Thats a Vindicator not a Liberator - fewer lights! Have not seen one on an XS - as you see the HD sticker on the fairing it was meant for the Harley -

                        Still would be a nice, unusual fairing to have.

                        John
                        Actually John, that is a Liberator. The seller just doesn't know what he has. That one is in pretty rough shape. Mine really wasn't in that much better shape when i started. Missing the fog lights and turn signals. You can still get those as they were used on many harley's but they aren't cheap. The side light cover that is missing can still be found on ebay occasionally. The windshield is a big one. I was lucky and found someone selling a few new old stock. Think i had to pay $120 for it shipped. One major thing that one is missing is the dash.
                        Here is mine when i got it


                        Here it is almost ready to clean up and install.



                        I was lucky and found one that was already mounted on an XS in a scrapyard. I was able to get the mounting brackets that someone had made with it.



                        Eventually I will put a hard trunk on it as well. Probably one of my winter projects.

                        Harry

                        The voices in my head are giving me the silent treatment.

                        '79 Standard
                        '82 XJ1100
                        '84 FJ1100


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                        • madmax-im
                          Master of XSology
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 6751
                          • Southern Comfort...Wendell NC

                          #13
                          This fairing does have a presence about it...like a big steam locomotive... Betcha fooled a couple of HD riders.
                          1980 XS650G Special-Two
                          1993 Honda ST1100

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                          • Bigfoot
                            XS-XJ GURU
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 1422
                            • Kansas City, Missouri

                            #14
                            Some people hate the look of it but i love it, and that is what really matters.
                            Harry

                            The voices in my head are giving me the silent treatment.

                            '79 Standard
                            '82 XJ1100
                            '84 FJ1100


                            Acta Non Verba

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                            • MPittma100
                              XS-XJ Guru
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 2359
                              • Atlanta, GA.

                              #15
                              Liberator

                              Is the XS11's electrical system able to handle all of those lights without any modification? Just curious.

                              Definitely an unusual looking fairing. Has an interesting history for sure.

                              MP
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