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    My bike sat from XS East until last weekend. (I rode something else) It was time for tire. Metzeler ME880 were on the bike. I was mostly satisfied with them. They seem to last longer than the Dunlop GT501 they replaced. OK, here's the stuff.

    My front tire still has plenty of tread after about 14,000 miles. Upon close scrutiny, there is a lot of cracking between the tread grooves. I have been running about 40 PSI in the tire. The date code says the tire was made in the 4th week of 2011. I don't think it should be cracking. I elected to replace it. With all that talk we've had about running old tires, here's a new twist. My tire appears to have aged out before it got old.

    The Metzeler ME880 fills the front fender pretty well. The tire size is 100/90-19. I measured it. It is more than 103 mm wide. Hmmm. I have a Dunlop GT501 size 100/90-19 mounted on another wheel. It measures just over 95 mm wide. On another bike, I checked the Bridgestone Spitfire. It is just over 100 mm wide, or almost exactly as advertised.

    I replaced the tires on my SG with Pirelli MT66 Route. I chose them based on the feedback I got here and the price. The first thing I did once they were mounted was to measure the front tire width. It comes in at just over 95 mm or exactly the same as the GT501.

    Over the last two days of riding, I have been checking my fuel economy. It had been 28-30 mpg or maybe even 32 on a good day. Now I'm getting 33 mpg and I've been running pretty hard and two-up. I checked my speedometer yesterday and the needle is 1 or 2 mph fast. I thought it was accurate with the old tire, but it could have even been a tad slow. I had checked it against a stationary radar at much lower speed than the 70 mph I checked it against yesterday. Yesterday, I checked it against GPS and the speedometer on Jeff's GoldWing simultaneously. So, when we talk MPG, the brand of front tire is going to add an error.

    I like the Pirelli MT66 Route so far. I ride with Jeff often and his skill is far beyond my own. He says I'm rolling at least 5 mph faster through the curves on the Pirellis than I was with the Metzelers. Only he would know. I'm comfortable with them.

    Marty (in Mississippi)
    XS1100SG
    XS650SK
    XS650SH
    XS650G
    XS6502F
    XS650E

  • #2
    I have a new 66 Route mounted and ready to go on Okie as soon as the E3 gets low enough or I take it on a long ride. Ivan swears by them and I've seen him push them hard. Plus, the rear is like $50 cheaper than the E3.

    I have a D404 on the rear of The Hornet that according to the DOT date code is 7 years old. It has no cracks and is still soft so I'm going to use it up.
    Greg

    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

    ― Albert Einstein

    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

    The list changes.

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    • #3
      My bike has Continental tires front and back...dont like them at all although they are not worn...am considering putting a better tire on the rear...never heard of 66 Route?
      1980 XS650G Special-Two
      1993 Honda ST1100

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      • #4
        Here Ben.... http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...0-0-0-24-1-1-1
        Greg

        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

        ― Albert Einstein

        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

        The list changes.

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        • #5
          Unfortunately no 17". You are pretty limited with that 17" rear.
          Greg

          Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

          ― Albert Einstein

          80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

          The list changes.

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          • #6


            Here is where I bought them:
            Pirelli MT66-Route Rear Motorcycle Tire

            MOTORCYCLE SUPERSTORE has them at the same price if you prefer.

            I have 500 miles on them. So far, so good!
            Marty (in Mississippi)
            XS1100SG
            XS650SK
            XS650SH
            XS650G
            XS6502F
            XS650E

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            • #7
              130/90-17

              Originally posted by madmax-im View Post
              My bike has Continental tires front and back...dont like them at all although they are not worn...am considering putting a better tire on the rear...never heard of 66 Route?


              I have not run this tire, but it is one of a few available in your size.

              Avon AM26 Roadrider Rear Tire
              Marty (in Mississippi)
              XS1100SG
              XS650SK
              XS650SH
              XS650G
              XS6502F
              XS650E

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              • #8
                I had run E3s for the last few tires but the cost went crazy. I'm trying the Michelin Pilot Actives... So far, I like them but of course, I ride like your grandmother
                "If A equals success, then the formula is: A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." - Albert Einstein

                "Illegitimi non carborundum"-Joseph W. "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell



                1980 LG
                1981 LH

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by dpotter58 View Post
                  So far, I like them but of course, I ride like your grandmother
                  Wow, I think I might have dyslexia or maybe I'm just tired, I read that as : 'I like to ride your grandmother'
                  Hi, my name is George & I'm a twisty addict!

                  80G (Green paint(PO idea))
                  The Green Monster
                  K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, '81 oil cooler, TC's homemade 4-2 w/Mac Mufflers, Raptor 660 ACCT
                  Got him in '04.
                  bald tire & borrowing parts

                  80SG (Black w/red emblems & calipers)
                  Scarlet
                  K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, WJ5, Shoei bags, Raptor 660 ACCT.
                  Got her in '11
                  Ready for the twisties!

                  81H (previously CPMaynard's)
                  Hugo
                  Full Venturer, Indigo Blue with B/W painted tank.
                  Cold weather ride

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jetmechmarty View Post


                    I have not run this tire, but it is one of a few available in your size.

                    Avon AM26 Roadrider Rear Tire
                    Thanks Marty and Greg...didnt realize my tire choices were so limited with this bike... What ever tire I do get is going to be ordered throuh Keel Bros Tires in Lawrenceville GA. They are the #1 vendor over on ST-Owners.com and I have been buying from them since 2007. They offer the best prices and will beat it if you find one cheaper...plus their customer service is second to none...and they are real motorcycle guys too. Last time i ordered a tire for my ST1100 last year..it was here in 24 hours!!! BTW I hate Avons and refuse to run them...
                    Also maybe a stupid question but my rim will only accept a bias ply tire not a radial??
                    1980 XS650G Special-Two
                    1993 Honda ST1100

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                    • #11
                      Has anyone run a Shinko rear tar???
                      http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...Rear-Tire.aspx
                      1980 XS650G Special-Two
                      1993 Honda ST1100

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                      • #12
                        The 712 and the 777 shinkos seem to be most common here. I have a 712 waiting to be put on my new rim when I finish painting it.
                        Nathan
                        KD9ARL

                        μολὼν λαβέ

                        1978 XS1100E
                        K&N Filter
                        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                        OEM Exhaust
                        ATK Fork Brace
                        LED Dash lights
                        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                        Green Monster Coils
                        SS Brake Lines
                        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                        Theodore Roosevelt

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by natemoen View Post
                          The 712 and the 777 shinkos seem to be most common here. I have a 712 waiting to be put on my new rim when I finish painting it.
                          I was looking at a Shinko 230 rear tire...only 75 bucks
                          1980 XS650G Special-Two
                          1993 Honda ST1100

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                          • #14
                            I ran the 230 tourmaster on my G a few years back.
                            I was satisfied with the tread life and handling.
                            I have since switched over to the 712 due to cost.
                            The 712 seems to be a little softer and wears a little faster in the middle.
                            I think that when I get the G back up I'll put the 230 on him(commuter), but keep running the 712s on the SG since she's going to be my twisty rider.
                            Hi, my name is George & I'm a twisty addict!

                            80G (Green paint(PO idea))
                            The Green Monster
                            K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, '81 oil cooler, TC's homemade 4-2 w/Mac Mufflers, Raptor 660 ACCT
                            Got him in '04.
                            bald tire & borrowing parts

                            80SG (Black w/red emblems & calipers)
                            Scarlet
                            K&N A/F, TC's fuse block, WJ5, Shoei bags, Raptor 660 ACCT.
                            Got her in '11
                            Ready for the twisties!

                            81H (previously CPMaynard's)
                            Hugo
                            Full Venturer, Indigo Blue with B/W painted tank.
                            Cold weather ride

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by madmax-im View Post
                              I was looking at a Shinko 230 rear tire...only 75 bucks
                              Yeah I know that is what your link was. Your words though only stated Shinko rear so I was giving you other options. The 712 is even cheaper than the 230.

                              http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...T.ac=SLIsearch
                              Nathan
                              KD9ARL

                              μολὼν λαβέ

                              1978 XS1100E
                              K&N Filter
                              #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                              OEM Exhaust
                              ATK Fork Brace
                              LED Dash lights
                              Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                              Green Monster Coils
                              SS Brake Lines
                              Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                              In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                              Theodore Roosevelt

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