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  • Surge 58
    XSive
    • Jun 2013
    • 28
    • Cairo, New York

    #1

    Standard Tank wanted!

    Hello,

    Anybody have a decent standard tank that they want to sell? I just picked up a $25 standard tank that I was starting to work on and the darn top portion of the fill area came loose from the tank while I was working on it.
    Stephen-Catskills

    1980 XS1100SG
    Raptor 660 ACCT, Kerker turnout exhaust, progressive fork springs, Showa shocks and Tkat forkbrace.

    Previous ride.
    1982 XJ650 SOLD!
  • natemoen
    Master of XSology
    • May 2010
    • 8640
    • Fargo

    #2
    What do you mean "came loose"? Pics help.
    Nathan
    KD9ARL

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    1978 XS1100E
    K&N Filter
    #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
    OEM Exhaust
    ATK Fork Brace
    LED Dash lights
    Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

    Green Monster Coils
    SS Brake Lines
    Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

    In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

    Theodore Roosevelt

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    • Surge 58
      XSive
      • Jun 2013
      • 28
      • Cairo, New York

      #3
      The part that is attached to the tank where the gas goes in came loose from the tank. It happened when I was trying to get out a broken screw and was pushing down when it let loose.
      Stephen-Catskills

      1980 XS1100SG
      Raptor 660 ACCT, Kerker turnout exhaust, progressive fork springs, Showa shocks and Tkat forkbrace.

      Previous ride.
      1982 XJ650 SOLD!

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      • natemoen
        Master of XSology
        • May 2010
        • 8640
        • Fargo

        #4
        If everything is still intact but the fill ring came loose just solder it back into place.
        Nathan
        KD9ARL

        μολὼν λαβέ

        1978 XS1100E
        K&N Filter
        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
        OEM Exhaust
        ATK Fork Brace
        LED Dash lights
        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

        Green Monster Coils
        SS Brake Lines
        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

        Theodore Roosevelt

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        • Surge 58
          XSive
          • Jun 2013
          • 28
          • Cairo, New York

          #5
          Hi Nathan,

          So, if I solder it woud I use the same kind of solder used on copper pipes? If not what kind. The area around the tank seems pretty solid as well as the ring so a little bit of cleaning it up and sanding some would smooth it all out and seem very fixable. I tried saving this tank from this guy who would have let it sit in his old garage and rust some more. The tank itself has a couple little dents that I can tap out. The other challenge is trying to clean up the rust o the inside. I have already taken everything off of the tank including the taps which are stuck. I will probably have to soak them and then get rebuid kits for them. Anyway thank you for your advise and I do have a picture of the tank but have not yet figured out on how to post it.


          Thanks.
          Stephen-Catskills

          1980 XS1100SG
          Raptor 660 ACCT, Kerker turnout exhaust, progressive fork springs, Showa shocks and Tkat forkbrace.

          Previous ride.
          1982 XJ650 SOLD!

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          • Surge 58
            XSive
            • Jun 2013
            • 28
            • Cairo, New York

            #6
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            Stephen-Catskills

            1980 XS1100SG
            Raptor 660 ACCT, Kerker turnout exhaust, progressive fork springs, Showa shocks and Tkat forkbrace.

            Previous ride.
            1982 XJ650 SOLD!

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            • natemoen
              Master of XSology
              • May 2010
              • 8640
              • Fargo

              #7
              Pictures need to be uploaded to a site like photobucket and then you post the provided IMG link in the text of your reply.

              Use a non lead, flux based solder. Do not use an acid based solder.
              Nathan
              KD9ARL

              μολὼν λαβέ

              1978 XS1100E
              K&N Filter
              #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
              OEM Exhaust
              ATK Fork Brace
              LED Dash lights
              Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

              Green Monster Coils
              SS Brake Lines
              Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

              In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

              Theodore Roosevelt

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              • Surge 58
                XSive
                • Jun 2013
                • 28
                • Cairo, New York

                #8
                Thanks Nate,

                I signed up on Photobucket and will have figure out how to use it. I will try sending a test photo next time before I send it here.
                Stephen-Catskills

                1980 XS1100SG
                Raptor 660 ACCT, Kerker turnout exhaust, progressive fork springs, Showa shocks and Tkat forkbrace.

                Previous ride.
                1982 XJ650 SOLD!

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                • bikerphil
                  Master of XSology
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 8641
                  • South Flori-DUH

                  #9
                  Copy the IMG link of your photo that you uploaded to photobucket and paste it here in your post.
                  2H7 (79) owned since '89
                  3H3 owned since '06

                  "If it ain't broke, modify it"

                  ☮

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                  • fredintoon
                    Master of XSology
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 6795
                    • Saskatoon SK

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Surge 58
                    Hello,

                    Anybody have a decent standard tank that they want to sell? I just picked up a $25 standard tank that I was starting to work on and the darn top portion of the fill area came loose from the tank while I was working on it.
                    Hi Steve,
                    also check the drain tube that starts in the tank's filler cap pocket and exits at the tank's left rear. If it's blocked, no biggie. If it's rusted through inside the tank fuel can leak out of the drain tube and onto the floor.
                    Prepare yourself that your $25 bargain may not be as sweet as you hoped.
                    OTOH, in the past a Standard tank's filler cap and fuel taps alone have sold for more than $25.
                    Fred Hill, S'toon
                    XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                    "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                    • ViperRon
                      XS-XJ Guru
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 1062
                      • Woodstock, VA

                      #11
                      Now this may be obvious to you but make sure to clean the fuel out of the tank. Heat tends to build up fumes and gas vapor can explode very easily. If the tank is very rusty gas residue can get trapped in rust pockets and heat will release it. So if the tank looks scally inside or has a lot of residue in the bottom clean it out first. It does not take a large explosion to bend that tank out of shape. Its just one more precaution to take.
                      To fix the problem one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed.

                      Rodan
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khm6...liHntN91DHjHiS
                      1980 G Silverbird
                      Original Yamaha Fairfing and Bags
                      1198 Overbore kit
                      Grizzly 660 ACCT
                      Barnett Clutch Springs
                      R1 Clutch Fiber Plates
                      122.5 Main Jets
                      ACCT Mod
                      Mac 4-2 Flare Tips
                      Antivibe Bar ends
                      Rear trunk add-on
                      http://s1184.photobucket.com/albums/z329/viperron1/

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                      • natemoen
                        Master of XSology
                        • May 2010
                        • 8640
                        • Fargo

                        #12
                        As to Fred's comments: yeah check the tube. If it is busted or has holes in it, solder the top hole and the bottom hole shut while your at it. Then if you ever get any water or gas in the recess in the top you need to soak it up and clean it out on your own.

                        As to ViperRon'a comments: absolutly clean it out first, you may find that there is no point in soldering the ring back in......
                        Nathan
                        KD9ARL

                        μολὼν λαβέ

                        1978 XS1100E
                        K&N Filter
                        #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                        OEM Exhaust
                        ATK Fork Brace
                        LED Dash lights
                        Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                        Green Monster Coils
                        SS Brake Lines
                        Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                        In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                        Theodore Roosevelt

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                        • Surge 58
                          XSive
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 28
                          • Cairo, New York

                          #13
                          Howdy,

                          OK, I think that I might be able to post a picture. The inside is rusted so I will try cleaning up a bit before I spend anymore time or money on it. It does however seem pretty solid underneath.

                          Stephen-Catskills

                          1980 XS1100SG
                          Raptor 660 ACCT, Kerker turnout exhaust, progressive fork springs, Showa shocks and Tkat forkbrace.

                          Previous ride.
                          1982 XJ650 SOLD!

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                          • natemoen
                            Master of XSology
                            • May 2010
                            • 8640
                            • Fargo

                            #14
                            Dang! I thought you were just talking about the fill ring in the middle, not the whole recessed cap area!

                            Interesting!
                            Nathan
                            KD9ARL

                            μολὼν λαβέ

                            1978 XS1100E
                            K&N Filter
                            #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                            OEM Exhaust
                            ATK Fork Brace
                            LED Dash lights
                            Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                            Green Monster Coils
                            SS Brake Lines
                            Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                            In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                            Theodore Roosevelt

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                            • fredintoon
                              Master of XSology
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 6795
                              • Saskatoon SK

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Surge 58
                              Howdy, OK, I think that I might be able to post a picture. The inside is rusted so I will try cleaning up a bit before I spend anymore time or money on it. It does however seem pretty solid underneath.
                              Hi Steve,
                              ooh, that looks nasty but it does give you the opportunity to rip the cap recess & drain tube right out of there, weld in a sheetmetal patch and fit your choice of one of these:-

                              in it's place.
                              But first, use the search feature to find how to de-rust that tank with a battery charger and a box of WASHING soda. Not baking soda, that's a different stuff and won't work
                              Best you don't throw money and effort into a cap fix until after you have checked that the de-rusted tank is sound enough to work with.
                              The first clue is if the tank acts like a watering can when you pour the washing soda electrolyte in.
                              Last edited by fredintoon; 07-22-2013, 11:26 AM.
                              Fred Hill, S'toon
                              XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                              "The Flying Pumpkin"

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