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  • #16
    Originally posted by natemoen View Post
    You also have what 7 bikes?
    The okieSPECIAL, 2 projects 3 parts bikes and a bare SH frame........close.
    Greg

    Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

    ― Albert Einstein

    80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

    The list changes.

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    • #17
      I have both a floor jack and a bottle jack. Just never thought to use them.
      got the bike up on the center stand yesterday while I had light to play with (what a difference!)
      used the floor jack because I couldn't find the bottle jack. I noticed that something looked wrong on the left side of the front tire, and the break pads were hanging down. I discovered that I had dropped the cap that goes between the tire and the fork on the left side, found it about 3 feet from the bike. I set the jack to hold up the front end with the tire still touching the ground, removed the shaft, got that piece back in. Then I loosened the bolts on the calipers enough so that I could swing the pads back up, and tightened everything back up. Took the bike for a short ride, now the back brake does not return after pressing it (I was never near there, my talent for screwing things up knows no bounds) and the front left roter seems to be rubbing against the fork on the outside. Got home after dark again (called into work) so I'll need to look at it today (I learned a lesson!)
      Bike seems to pull a little left now, I suspect that has something to do with the roter rubbing?
      1981 XS 11 special
      red
      40,000 miles

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      • #18
        Hmmm....Trying to picture what the he!! your talking about. The only cap on the left side of the axle is the speedometer drive and with it installed properly the rotor should be properly spaced in the groove.

        You DID align the 2 tabs inside the left bearing recess with the 2 grooves in the speedo drive right? Still, I can't see how the ouside of the left rotor can be rubbing. Unless your talking about the other left, you know, the one on the right. The right side can slide on the big end of the axle and can be tightened out of alignment due to inexperience. BTDT
        Greg

        Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

        ― Albert Einstein

        80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

        The list changes.

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        • #19
          When referring to sides of a bike always refer to it as the side it would be while sitting on the bike.
          Nathan
          KD9ARL

          μολὼν λαβέ

          1978 XS1100E
          K&N Filter
          #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
          OEM Exhaust
          ATK Fork Brace
          LED Dash lights
          Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

          Green Monster Coils
          SS Brake Lines
          Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

          In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

          Theodore Roosevelt

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          • #20
            Meant to sya right, both the caliper and the missing/ found cap. my mistake.
            For fun, the speedometer stopped working on my way to work this morning. Yay.
            1981 XS 11 special
            red
            40,000 miles

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BA80 View Post
              The right side can slide on the big end of the axle and can be tightened out of alignment due to inexperience. BTDT
              So, since I meant the other left, Does this mean I can just loosen the left (I mean right), let the fork slide out a bit, and retighten? This is my plan for my lunch break, if I can get the maintenance guy to loan me tools. That, and bleed the rear brake.

              Speedometer currently = least of my worries.
              1981 XS 11 special
              red
              40,000 miles

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              • #22
                I think you need to step back read through the Fork alignment process in the manual (dont have one? Download the electronic version from the link in member catatonic bug's signature line) and then start over from scratch.
                Nathan
                KD9ARL

                μολὼν λαβέ

                1978 XS1100E
                K&N Filter
                #45 pilot Jet, #137.5 Main Jet
                OEM Exhaust
                ATK Fork Brace
                LED Dash lights
                Ammeter, Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, and Volt Meters

                Green Monster Coils
                SS Brake Lines
                Vision 550 Auto Tensioner

                In any moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.

                Theodore Roosevelt

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Hmar View Post
                  So, since I meant the other left, Does this mean I can just loosen the left (I mean right), let the fork slide out a bit, and retighten? This is my plan for my lunch break, if I can get the maintenance guy to loan me tools. That, and bleed the rear brake.

                  Speedometer currently = least of my worries.
                  Yeah you can loosen and slide the fork to align the rotor in it's groove. Groovy?
                  You need to determine whether it's the hydaulics ( master cylinder) or a mechanical problem making the brake pedal stick down. That shaft that the pedal and push rod are connected to can get rusty and sticky where it runs through the frame. Kinda what it sounds like to me. The return spring should bring it back up even if the master cylinder is sticking.
                  Greg

                  Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                  ― Albert Einstein

                  80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                  The list changes.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Hmar View Post
                    Meant to sya right, both the caliper and the missing/ found cap. my mistake.
                    For fun, the speedometer stopped working on my way to work this morning. Yay.
                    Hi Hmar,
                    try saying port and starboard, that works whichever way the bike is facing or even if it's upside down.
                    Speedo:-
                    If the speedo don't work but the odometer does, the speedo is fried and you need another one.
                    If nothing works, investigate further.
                    Now you have learned the jacking the frame up trick, screw the cable outer retaining nut off the speedo so you can see the drive cable's square end, lift the front wheel and spin it.
                    If the cable turns, yes, the speedo is fried.
                    If it don't, investigate further.
                    Either the cable is broken (take the bottom end off and look) or the speedo drive connector dogs were mis-aligned when you put the wheel back in. With luck, they can be straightened.
                    If the cable IS broken, don't just buy a new one and bung it in.
                    It most likely broke because the speedo has run out of lube after 30 years and is hard to turn.
                    To check, shove a Robertson screwdriver (or the busted stub of the cable) into the speedo drive connection and twirl it. There should be little or no resistance. If it resists, that's what broke the cable. Dribble some 3 in 1 or other light oil into the drive. If the speedo frees up you are golden. If it don't, you ain't. You are back to checking the "parts for sale" forum.
                    Fred Hill, S'toon
                    XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                    "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Hmar View Post
                      I have both a floor jack and a bottle jack. Just never thought to use them.
                      got the bike up on the center stand yesterday while I had light to play with (what a difference!)
                      used the floor jack because I couldn't find the bottle jack. I noticed that something looked wrong on the left side of the front tire, and the break pads were hanging down. I discovered that I had dropped the cap that goes between the tire and the fork on the left side, found it about 3 feet from the bike. I set the jack to hold up the front end with the tire still touching the ground, removed the shaft, got that piece back in. Then I loosened the bolts on the calipers enough so that I could swing the pads back up, and tightened everything back up. Took the bike for a short ride, now the back brake does not return after pressing it (I was never near there, my talent for screwing things up knows no bounds) and the front left roter seems to be rubbing against the fork on the outside. Got home after dark again (called into work) so I'll need to look at it today (I learned a lesson!)
                      Bike seems to pull a little left now, I suspect that has something to do with the roter rubbing?
                      Part of the procedure on the specials when putting the wheel back on after bouncing the front end a couple of times (not off the ground just compressing the forks and releasing them) is to properly position the rotors in the calipers before locking down the axle. This is done only on one side on standards and most of the time not needed after the bounce as it will almost always naturally space itself correctly.
                      Cy

                      1980 XS1100G (Brutus) w/81H Engine
                      Duplicolor Mirage Paint Job (Purple/Green)
                      Vetter Windjammer IV
                      Vetter hard bags & Trunk
                      OEM Luggage Rack
                      Jardine Spaghetti 4-2 exhaust system
                      Spade Fuse Box
                      Turn Signal Auto Cancel Mod
                      750 FD Mod
                      TC Spin on Oil Filter Adapter (temp removed)
                      XJ1100 Front Footpegs
                      XJ1100 Shocks

                      I was always taught to respect my elders, but it keeps getting harder to find one.

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                      • #26
                        So, I let the fork out a bit, and no more rubbing. bled the rear brake, no apparent help. The spring seems to be shot, but it seems to take more effort to lift the pedal than that little wire ever had in it, so I suspect it has other issues. still haven't had a chance to look at the speedometer cable except to verify that it appears to be installed correctly. Odometer is out as well.
                        Steering seems to be a little bit loose, but not sure if it really is or if it is just me.
                        1981 XS 11 special
                        red
                        40,000 miles

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Hmar View Post
                          So, I let the fork out a bit, and no more rubbing. bled the rear brake, no apparent help. The spring seems to be shot, but it seems to take more effort to lift the pedal than that little wire ever had in it, so I suspect it has other issues. still haven't had a chance to look at the speedometer cable except to verify that it appears to be installed correctly. Odometer is out as well.
                          Steering seems to be a little bit loose, but not sure if it really is or if it is just me.
                          I find that once in a great while, my speedo cable will come lose from the speedo housing. I should throw a dab of locktite on it. Maybe yours backed out as well?
                          Mike C
                          Lake Orion, Michigan
                          '78 XS1100E

                          Here I am! Where are you?

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                          • #28
                            I'll check the connections on my lunch break. Thanks
                            1981 XS 11 special
                            red
                            40,000 miles

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                            • #29
                              Your standard has a different setup than the special Fix. Ours has a bracket held to the drive with a bolt.
                              Greg

                              Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

                              ― Albert Einstein

                              80 SG Ol' Okie;79 engine & carbs w/pods, 45 pilots, 140 mains, Custom Mac 4 into 2 exhaust, ACCT,XS850 final drive,110/90/19 front tire,TKat fork brace, XS750 140 MPH speedometer, Vetter IV fairing, aftermarket hard bags and trunk, LG high back seat, XJ rear shocks.

                              The list changes.

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                              • #30
                                So, The rear brake is better with the liberal application of wd-40. I took the front wheel back off, lined the speedo back up with the tabs on the wheel (I bent them in when I reinstalled the wheel) and it worked. For about a mile. The speed sensor looked good, I will need to bend the tabs back out a little more. Otherwise, the bike seems to be running ok for now. I still need to fix the oil leak and the 2nd gear, those will wait until riding season is over if they don't get worse. Thanks to all who helped
                                1981 XS 11 special
                                red
                                40,000 miles

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