Flasher cancelling unit

[Stralya]

Greetings all,
Anyone know where I can get a flasher cancelling unit for Swifty? I've searched the net (ebay etc) and I've had no luck. I've sent a message to Andreas, he usually comes through, but I thought I'd ask the group generally.

Thanks,
Dan.

[xsroadrunner]

If you mean the signal flasher relay thing...I saw one yesterday on ebay...but it was for an '82 XJ1100. I think they're all the same though.

[Stralya]

Nope, the flasher relay is a different unit altogether, I'm looking for a cancelling unit but thanks for the reply.

[bikerphil]

Here is a list of other Yamaha models that use the same flasher cancelling unit. Just double check the wire colors at the plug before installing. One time I had to switch two pins around at the connector for the proper orientation.

http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/ya...395-03-00.html

[crazy steve]

Have you verified that your reed switch at the speedometer is good before deciding it's a bad canceller? Also make sure the plug connection to the canceller is clean, as these really don't like poor connections...

[DGXSER]

If you conclude you need one, I have one just sitting in a box.

[Stralya]

Thanks Phil, great stuff there. Steve, I haven't checked the speedo reed switch because all indications have been flasher unit which I replaced and now I get the right side blinking perfectly but only a dull semi glow on the left side and the flashers don't self cancel but I'll check in the morning. DG, well if it works, what do you want for it? I have replaced almost everything else so it can't hurt. I even bought an LED replacement bulb kit which included a flasher unit and I have the same problem. For about the last year or so I've had problems with the indicators. Sometimes they wouldn't work at all and sometimes they would come on all by themselves. It been getting progressively worse to the point where nothing worked at all but since replacing the flasher unit, I have the right side like I said and bugger all else really.

[petejw]

hey dan,

have u checked the ground connections on the blinklers,
could cause a problem.

[Stralya]

Yeah mate, done that, all the earths are good

[DGXSER]

I will PM a price on the flasher cancel unit. I would think it wouldonly effect if the flashers did or did not cancel though, so it does not seem like it would cause all the craziness you have going on. You should be able to jumper it out to check though if it is the cause of your problems.

[crazy steve]

Dan, the flasher cancelling module has nothing to do with the actual flashing of the lights; it's only there to turn them off after it's made it's time/distance calcs. Although if it's bad or has a poor connection, it can prevent them from working.

The turns should still work, just not self-cancel, if you unplug the canceller and take it completely out of the circuit. If you still have a problem with it unplugged, you need to start tracing wires and checking connections. It really sounds like a poor connection or maybe a bare/pinched wire; check all the light sockets, and thoroughly clean the handlbar switch. If you have a hazard switch, clean/check that also.

I went through a similar problem when 'proofing' my SG harness; thought for sure I had a bad canceller, but all four I had checked 'bad', and I knew at least one of them worked as it had been removed from a functioning system. The signals would work with the canceller removed, as soon as I plugged it in they quit. Turned out it was a dirty plug on the canceller...

[bikerphil]

I even bought an LED replacement bulb kit which included a flasher unit and I have the same problem.

The flashers will only cancel with the Yamaha OEM flasher relay. You will lose self cancel with any aftermarket unit.

[cywelchjr]

The flashers will only cancel with the Yamaha OEM flasher relay. You will lose self cancel with any aftermarket unit.

As well, the canceler unit will have no affect whatsoever on the flashers with an aftermarket flasher, so you need to look at other things, cause with an aftermarket flasher that rules that out as the possible issue. Something is wrong on that side, either with the turn signal switch or with the hazard switch maybe if you have it.

[Stralya]

Well I took the cancelling unit off the bike altogether and the right side still blinked so it's not the cancelling unit after all. I pulled down everything I could and cleaned them with electrical cleaner and a toothbrush (I'll look a bit funny tomorrow when I smile). I've spent all bloody day in the garage trying to figure out the problem with my indicators. Long story short, they work perfectly now, except when the brake (front or back) is applied, they stop blinking and both dash arrows glow dull...it's enough to drive a man to drink. What time is it? It's five o'clock somewhere....Cheers!

Dan
Dr.Toohey's fave patient.

[crazy steve]

You're close, very close....

Having a 'euro' version of the XS, there are some differences. If I'm not mistaken, your rear turns attach to the taillight mount. Yamaha, in it's infinite wisdom, grounded the turns through their housings (rather than running a wire to the socket), so I'll bet that's where your problem lays. Check/clean the socket/housing, housing/stem, stem/taillight mount, and mount/ground wire connections (these are mechanical connections except for the first and last ones, but are also your ground path) and that will likely clear it up. If that fails to clear the problem, then check the actual ground wire at the taillight for resistance to ground. If you put your meter on the taillight end of the ground wire and to the negative battery terminal, you should get a value of less than 1 ohm. More, and you still have the problem, you'll need to trace this wire and it's connections.

Both rear turns and the brake light share a ground, and if it's a poor connection, your symtoms can be the result. The turn indicators glowing is all the other lights hunting for a 'earth return' (in your parlance ).