309 horse power- sweet!

[scoot]

sale-zjazq-2379849277@craigslist.org

Wow.:




1980 yamaha xs1100's - $2000 (mira mesa)
Date: 2011-05-13, 5:27PM PDT
Reply to: sale-zjazq-2379849277@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]
i have 2 xs1100's ones pretty much done. the other is a new project. great cafe or bobber builds...
the one thats almost done just needs a new light and battery. and the carbs done but i have the carb kits already. i have completely taken the entire bike down to the frame, repainted and cleaned every part and started rebuilding from there.
the bike thats a project is completely stock. its all taken apart but everything is there in boxes except the front wheel and fork. otherwise its all there.
my friends dad sold me the bikes and both turned over when i got them just a month ago. bikes are on california non op. he couldnt find the titles when we looked but we can give you a proper bill of sale...these bikes are awesome. the almost done one has about 24,000 miles and the other i believe is 29,000. i looked it up and stock they have 309 horse power...! great bikes. not far from running. i will keep working on these bikes as i have the time because i do enjoy it. but the more i get done the more the price will rise. ill sell both for 2000 obo or the almost done one for 1800 obo and the project for 400 obo. call or text at 858 568 8939


tags: sold as is. sales are final. cafe, cafe racer, bobber, chopper, xs, gx, cb, 550, 750, 900, 1100, yamaha, honda, suzuki, triumph, ducati



( this is not my sale.- scoot)




* Location: mira mesa
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[DGXSER]

Given the way these things pull and haul with 85 HP, at 300 HP you could not pay me to mount this beast!!!! I have a car with 500 HP, it scares me at times (cause it should! ) With this little weight and that kind of HP, you would simply shred the rubber and never move.

[jwhughes3]

methinks that

the friends dad is not a nice man to do that to a naive teenager....


john

[cywelchjr]

Yup, in Ca it will never be able to be registered without a title, not without 100's in fees and years of paperwork. It's a long drawn out process and they make it almost impossible to do. A bike in Ca without a title, unless you have emotional attachment to it and are willing to spend the time on it, is a parts bike.

[knewsom]

Yup, in Ca it will never be able to be registered without a title, not without 100's in fees and years of paperwork. It's a long drawn out process and they make it almost impossible to do. A bike in Ca without a title, unless you have emotional attachment to it and are willing to spend the time on it, is a parts bike.

Good to know... especially because I'm kinda considering picking up 3 bikes, 2 of which are untitled.

Saw this ad too and cracked up. 309 HP indeed, lol!

[DiverRay]

Sorry Cy, but I'll bet you are wrong! Non-oped is as good as registered. Lost title, IF you have the name of the original owner, is also not much of a problem. You just need to go to a small town DMV, NOT one in a metro area!

[knewsom]

Sorry Cy, but I'll bet you are wrong! Non-oped is as good as registered. Lost title, IF you have the name of the original owner, is also not much of a problem. You just need to go to a small town DMV, NOT one in a metro area!

Original owner, or last registered owner?

[cywelchjr]

Sorry Cy, but I'll bet you are wrong! Non-oped is as good as registered. Lost title, IF you have the name of the original owner, is also not much of a problem. You just need to go to a small town DMV, NOT one in a metro area!

Yeah, that was what the DMV office told me, no problem they said, till the letter came from DMV kicking it back. They processed it at the DMV office no problem. But, if no title, and out of the system, it's not able to be titled in Ca without significant work. The state office tells me it can ALWAYS be done if you have enough patience. At worst if it doesn't show stolen anywhere is that they will require a bond. But they can give you lots of hassle if the paperwork is lost. As long is it's still in the system, no problem, just pay back fees. Like I said, if it's out of the system, it's as if it never existed unless YOU have the paperwork. I went to woodland back when it was still open, because of that very thing, but it didn't matter that the DMV office was very understanding and helpful and processed the paperwork with no trouble, the state office kicked it back and refused to process it and issued a reg card or title without a LOT of hoops (including inspections that cannot be gotten in Sacramento County, I finally found 1 junkyard who did them and I had to get the forms from DMV for them). I don't speak from what someone told me, I speak from trying to register my OWN bike that was stolen, recovered, then stored for 10 years and all paperwork lost (everything, including the theft report and the CHP doesn't even have it anymore) and I'm STILL fighting with DMV almost 3 years later trying to get it registered. I've not given up (although I'm close) cause I want to pass it on to my grandson.

[knewsom]

if it's out of the system, it's as if it never existed unless YOU have the paperwork.

If it's not in the system, and treated as though it's just now entering into the system, wouldn't it just make sense to have a bill of sale and fill out an application for title...?

Sorry, this is just really confusing, and I'm considering picking up a couple bikes that have not been registered in 20 years and have no titles. They're going to be project bikes, but still.

[WMarshy]

If it's not in the system, and treated as though it's just now entering into the system, wouldn't it just make sense to have a bill of sale and fill out an application for title...?

Sorry, this is just really confusing, and I'm considering picking up a couple bikes that have not been registered in 20 years and have no titles. They're going to be project bikes, but still.

Bill of sale alone is not PROOF OF OWNERSHIP and a Title becomes VERY hard obtained without PROPER PROOF OF OWNERSHIP. Lots of hoops to jump through if you:

1. Only have a Bill of Sale
2. Records have been purged from DMV data base (has not been register/re-registered/ownership transfered within 6-10 years it becomes purged/deleted)
3. Dont know the last registered owner... DMV allows you to fill out a form that will release the personal information of the last titled owner if you meet the proper criteria (I didnt see anything that could apply to trying to located pervious owner to obtain title blah blah blah...) . Due to 9/11 and the Privacy Act they dont just hand out that information anymore...

There are companies that will get you a title though! It can cost somewhere between $250 and $400 depending which one you go to. International Title Service (www.ITS-titles.com I think...) is one of the cheaper ones and people on here have used it with success...

[cywelchjr]

Don't get me wrong, at least Ca is one state where it can be done, it's just not easy, and they actually don't WANT you to do it (they want all old vehicles off the road really) so they make it difficult. It just takes time, some extra money (I'm not talking bribes here, just stuff like inspections and bonds) and perseverance to get it done. If everything works out as well as it can, you can get it done in just a few months, but it can take a couple of years if things don't go right, and they WILL want to you to account for every moment of the bikes existence since the last time it was registered, where it was and why, with a statement from each person who had it in their possession. They wanted a statement from the guy who stole my bike as to where he stored it! And they are going to want back reg AND penalties for the entire time it was not registered, unless there is a paper trail showing it was registered non-op. Depending on how they are feeling, there is a decent chance they will give you a break on that with a statement that the last owner to have it on the road registered it non-op, but you might need a statement to that effect. So, it can be done, it's possible, but add the headaches and time and expense of doing it to the cost of the bikes, cause it's not just showing up and DMV with the papers and walking out with new plates, it's gonna take more than that, including at LEAST two inspections, and maybe a brake and light depending on how they are feeling (be careful how you describe the condition of the bike, anything that implies having to reassemble the bike WILL trigger a salvage title and brake and light inspection).

[Kit]

some extra money (I'm not talking bribes here, just stuff like inspections and bonds)

Official names for the same thing, as far as I'm concerned.

Cy, have you looked into filing for a lost title and registering in another state? Then transferring back to California later? I know you can file for lost title in Oregon and get a replacement, but I've never had to do it, so I don't know the details or how hard it would be. You would just need an Oregon address....

[cywelchjr]

Official names for the same thing, as far as I'm concerned.

Cy, have you looked into filing for a lost title and registering in another state? Then transferring back to California later? I know you can file for lost title in Oregon and get a replacement, but I've never had to do it, so I don't know the details or how hard it would be. You would just need an Oregon address....

I got away without the bonds, and I got lucky on the inspections (got a friend who's a CHP who did the LEO inspection for me and found the only junkyark in the county that does the brake and light and only $20 if I brought the forms from DMV), but filling out the stupid forms, and each round more stupid questions with clarifications of things already asked (and don't get testy with your answers, that just pisses them off). I'm hoping one more round and it will be clear and then I can PNO it and do a frame off restore while I rebuilt the engine.