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  • #16
    No Comfort Zone

    Originally posted by Ivan View Post
    OR

    It could be saying, "I like my chin and teeth."
    Exactly, Ivan.

    That's why the 3/4 face stays on the shelf and I don the full face. I've used the 3/4 with the sun visor and liked being able to block the sun. But after a while the lack of AMAP protection nags at me. I just don't feel as snuggly as I do when I wear the full face. In the end I've taken the 3/4 out of the regular rotation and tried to live with the glare and despair of the full face:



    I'm not exactly comfortable with that either.

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    • #17
      Well i didn't find out much today at the opthomologist. The doc was busy, so i taked to the manager. He told me that we would want non-polarized, brown or grey tint, no blue blocker, and have a reflective coating. He also said that it would be best to have them wrap around the side of the eye as well. My appointment is next Wednesday, and he is bringing me a pair to look at. They will be his personal pair. Hope it is sunny out for the test. I will let you all know the final decision next week. I would expect that these sunglasses will cost no less than $100.00. Maybe i'll be suprised though.
      1980 XS1100LG Midnight
      1991 Honda CBR1000F Hurricane


      "The hand is almost valueless at one end of the arm if there be not a brain at the other"

      Here's to a long life and a happy one.
      A quick death and an easy one.
      A pretty girl and an honest one.
      A cold beer and another one!

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      • #18
        The Hollywood Look??

        Originally posted by XS1100 Newbie View Post
        Well i didn't find out much today at the opthomologist. The doc was busy, so i taked to the manager. He told me that we would want non-polarized, brown or grey tint, no blue blocker, and have a reflective coating. He also said that it would be best to have them wrap around the side of the eye as well. My appointment is next Wednesday, and he is bringing me a pair to look at. They will be his personal pair. Hope it is sunny out for the test. I will let you all know the final decision next week. I would expect that these sunglasses will cost no less than $100.00. Maybe i'll be suprised though.
        Ummm...ya mean something like the setup as seen in the first 10 seconds of this video??:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbI59HVzr2Q

        Been There Done That. (It's me there flipping the mirrored/tinted shield down over my non polarized wrap-around reflective coated sunglasses...)

        Even with that set-up I'm experiencing the same type of problems as you are in similar conditions. If you watch the full video you'll see that the ride is from light to dark etc.

        I dunno. I haven't spent $100 on glasses...yet. Just saying that the sunvisor is what ended up making the final difference for me.
        Last edited by Larrym; 03-03-2010, 07:09 PM.

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        • #19
          Brown lenses

          The information about the brown lenses is very interesting to me, several years ago I was diagnosed with the beginings of macular degeneration. No one told me about the right kind of sunglass lens to use. I stumble on brown lenses about 2 years ago and liked them because of the better detail when using them. To learn that they are good for slowing down the Macular is a bonus. I am hoping that by the time that I am in real trouble seeing things, someone will have perfected a treatment. I am a vorious reader and loosing that ability would cause my depression to really kick my butt mentally. Thanks again.
          Ole Jack
          J.D."Jack" Smith
          1980G&S "Halfbreed"
          1978E straight job
          "We the people are the rightful masters of both congress and the courts, not to overthrow the constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the constitution." Abraham Lincoln

          Life is like a coin, you can choose to spend it any way you wish, but you can only spend it once. Make your choices wisely.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by XS1100 Newbie View Post
            I don't know if it is my age, or something that every biker goes through. When riding in the mountains with the sun in my eye, if i am entering a shady area of trees, i can't see crap. Does anybody know, or have a recomendation for some good sunglasses to help solve this problem. It's really unnerving to be following someone, and have this happen.
            I have four pair of sunglasses, and none of them seem to do any good.
            Ray-Bans or Dirty Dog.

            Not cheap but the key to good sunglasses is dont "cheap out". Pay the money for good ones and look after them.

            http://www.ray-ban.com http://www.dirtydog.com

            Personally i use Ray Bans under a slight tinted visor and I dont have any glare problems at all, but my son prefers the Dirty Dogs. I've tried both and havent really noticed the difference, except maybe the frame comfort on the ears inside the helmet. Ray bans are slightly ahead on that one.
            1980 SG. (Sold - waiting on replacement)
            2000 XJR1300. The Real modern XS11. Others are just pretenders.

            Woman (well, my wife anyway) are always on Transmit and never Receive.

            "A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be" Albert Einstien.

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            • #21
              I have seen an add on visor that attaches to the top of your existing shield, and also a tint material that you put on the inside upper part of the shield. Both are reasonably priced. I liked the look of the visor, and i think i will order one. It is only $17.00 plus shipping. I think it is worth the try. Other than that it would be a 3/4 open face helmet, or dirt bike helmet to get the visor.
              1980 XS1100LG Midnight
              1991 Honda CBR1000F Hurricane


              "The hand is almost valueless at one end of the arm if there be not a brain at the other"

              Here's to a long life and a happy one.
              A quick death and an easy one.
              A pretty girl and an honest one.
              A cold beer and another one!

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              • #22
                seriously, get a polarized lens. i don't care if you ride or not, the ONLY people that shouldn't have a polarized lens are policemen and pilots. and that is only because they won't be able to read computer screens (laptops in cop cars, and gages on planes) with a polarized lens. if your optician ever tells you that you shouldn't have them, change eye doctors... and go for a BROWN lens. not too dark, i wear my sunglasses year round, from dawn to dusk with a brown lens and i have great depth perception, great separation of images (just as tree limbs and the like) and while it might change the colors slightly, you can actually see a difference in the shades of tree leaves, again, while they might not look green green, you can see a difference. and lenses that change won't do it for you, you need actual protection, if you wear transition lenses in your normal glasses you will end up squinting through a dark lens. the gap between your face above, below and next to your eyes is typically greater with regular glasses than that of sunglasses, which allows more sunlight to hit your eyes. get good, wrap, polarized, brown sunglasses and you will find your ride much more comfortable.
                1980 XS 1100 Special (working to be my daily ride)

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by xs11jack View Post
                  The information about the brown lenses is very interesting to me, several years ago I was diagnosed with the beginings of macular degeneration. No one told me about the right kind of sunglass lens to use. I stumble on brown lenses about 2 years ago and liked them because of the better detail when using them. To learn that they are good for slowing down the Macular is a bonus. I am hoping that by the time that I am in real trouble seeing things, someone will have perfected a treatment. I am a vorious reader and loosing that ability would cause my depression to really kick my butt mentally. Thanks again.
                  Ole Jack
                  Hey Jack,

                  Well, the jury is still out regarding sunlight/UV rays and their role in the development of Macular Degeneration. There are many factors that they feel are a part of why it occurs, from genetics, to low pigment levels in the retina...it's much more prevalent in Caucasions that Afro-Americans.

                  There's also not a lot of evidence regarding things that folks can do to prevent or slow down it's progress. There are special vitamins with anti- oxidents and such. There are 2 types, the Dry form, where the nerves are just slowly dying off, and it can be mild, just a few lines of vision, or it can be severe to where you can't see the big "E"=Legally blind unable to DRIVE.

                  The 2nd type is the WET form, where cracks form in the layer that separates the nerves from the vacular layer beneath it, and abnormal vessels grow thru the cracks into the nerve layer leaking fluid, bleeding and eventually destroying the nerves. They have made a monumental discovery in the chemicals that the body sends to stimulate the vessel growth, and have created a medicine that they inject directly into the back of the eye that prevents and can even reverse the vessel growth preserving and sometimes even improving vision if early vessel damage had already started.

                  With the dry form, there is a 1 in 10 chance that it can turn into the wet form every year. They've also learned that depending on the type of "Drusen", the deposits that are seen with the DRY form can also determine ones risk for the wet form developing.

                  Folks diagnosed should have a diagram called an AMSLER grid, looks like a piece of graph paper with a dot in the center. They look at it one eye at a time to check for any changes in its appearance. IF the lines get wavy or distorted or missing, then they know to see their eye doctor SOON.

                  SO...I'm just posting this so that if you haven't seen your doctor in a while, you'll want to touch base with him...BTW, is your doctor a regular Ophthalmologist, or are you seeing a RETINAL specialist? Would highly suggest you see a Retinal specialist if you haven't yet!

                  And I also say that POLARIZED lenses for bikers are highly recommended. Don't know why that other Optician would NOT recommend them aside from what was mentioned about seeing LCD type gauges? The color of lenses being in the yellow/orange/brown spectrum do the best job of blocking/filtering out the light blue rays, and these are the ones that cause the most GLARE, and when that glare is removed, the contrast and clarity is greatly improved. Grey or blue tinted just darken the scene which removes information from your view.

                  T.C.
                  T. C. Gresham
                  81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                  79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                  History shows again and again,
                  How nature points out the folly of men!

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                  • #24
                    the info on brown lenses came from a study done by silhoutte (a frame company) and NASA ( they use only silhoutte for their astronauts...or at least used to, i don't know if they still use only them). the findings were that in the VISUAL spectrum, blue light has a direct correlation to macular degeneration. brown lenses filter out more blue light. therefore should be better for your eyes, whether you have some issues or not. now, i don't know what that is worth, if anything, but i have found that the brown lense is more comfortable overall, and the polarized is the only lense i will ever have. that is probably worth less than the study, but nonetheless, there it is.
                    1980 XS 1100 Special (working to be my daily ride)

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                    • #25
                      A Little Shadey??

                      I got one of those "SuperVisor" products and attached it to my helmet today. For details:

                      http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26984

                      So Far I'm OK with it.

                      Before:
                      __________

                      After:
                      __________

                      In the Catch-Bugs-with-my-EyeBalls Position:
                      __________

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                      • #26
                        Hi Larry this does look cool...is there a link to their site/ Also am curious how well the visor fits on the face shield and wether or not it might get blown off with headwinds?


                        Originally posted by Larrym View Post
                        I got one of those "SuperVisor" products and attached it to my helmet today. For details:

                        http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26984

                        So Far I'm OK with it.

                        Before:
                        __________

                        After:
                        __________

                        In the Catch-Bugs-with-my-EyeBalls Position:
                        __________
                        1980 XS650G Special-Two
                        1993 Honda ST1100

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                        • #27
                          Ok folks, my appointment was changed to today. I went with presciption sunglasses made by a company called JC i think it was. (wish i had a memory) They will have brown, polarized, reflective lenses. They are made for motorcycles, and have a cushion that seals around the eyes. This can also pop off for normal use. I'll get the exact name and report back on them. They did cost me $175.00, but i think they will be good. If they aren't, the shoot, i have spent that much on liquer in an evening before when i was young.
                          1980 XS1100LG Midnight
                          1991 Honda CBR1000F Hurricane


                          "The hand is almost valueless at one end of the arm if there be not a brain at the other"

                          Here's to a long life and a happy one.
                          A quick death and an easy one.
                          A pretty girl and an honest one.
                          A cold beer and another one!

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                          • #28
                            Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm

                            Originally posted by madmax-im View Post
                            Hi Larry this does look cool...is there a link to their site/ Also am curious how well the visor fits on the face shield and wether or not it might get blown off with headwinds?
                            madmax-im,

                            Here's the link to the website:

                            http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26984

                            here's the link to My post in Channel 11's "Product Evaluations" section:

                            http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26984

                            I guess it fits onto the face shield well enough. It didn't deform/stress the shape of the shield cause of the way I installed it. That's a little detail I was concerned about as well.

                            Blown off by roadspeed winds?? As in the visor being separated from the shield?? I dunno about that. Seriously don't know cause the test flight/road test is on hold due to unacceptable weather. The visor is removable in my installation so it clips onto 4 separate holders which are in turn "glued" to the face shield with some rubber-esque pads. The clips seem strong enough but then this whole deal is only as strong as it's weakest link. Only the road test will satisfy my need-to-know of whether it'll stay on or not.

                            I'm also concerned about the visor's behavior with the winds at high speeds. Like any airfoil with a leading/trailing edge it's gonna do something. Shuddering, vibrating, buzzing, flexing, etc will be a deal breaker for me. In particular, as long as the leading edge is lower than the trailing edge the visor will add some amount of downward force to the faceshield. The visor also has a design which lets air from the shield flow up/through between the shield/visor. That's a good thing cause my visor doesn't exactly lock in the down position and otherwise I'd be concerned that the trapped air underneath the bill would cause it to lift up the visor while riding. Seems like it should work ok from a benchpoint view.

                            The road test will include a videocamera pointed back and up to the helmet/visor so we'll see what happens and how well it works/doesn't work. In particular, I'm going to do all the silly things that wouldn't be advisable. Things like looking up or to the side and seeing if the visor will open my face shield at roadspeed. I'll be ready for it if it happens so no worries for me. I would hate to see what happens if the visor surprised someone who hadn't known about this possibility. Maybe it won't happen. But maybe it will.

                            Whatever does happen will be on video.

                            CrashTestDummies.

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                            • #29
                              Supposedly Monday is going to be a great day, but i bet you have to work. I am riding.
                              1980 XS1100LG Midnight
                              1991 Honda CBR1000F Hurricane


                              "The hand is almost valueless at one end of the arm if there be not a brain at the other"

                              Here's to a long life and a happy one.
                              A quick death and an easy one.
                              A pretty girl and an honest one.
                              A cold beer and another one!

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                              • #30
                                A Thousand Shades of Grey??

                                Originally posted by XS1100 Newbie View Post
                                Supposedly Monday is going to be a great day, but i bet you have to work. I am riding.
                                Magic Word: Retired.

                                Great day for a ride. Not a good day to document the ride/test with a video camera. Not enough light to keep those little CCD's happy. Plus the level changes: grey to dark to grey. Really hard on the eyes to watch the end product.

                                What to do on a grey day in the PNW.

                                Now that I've got a visor to protect my eyes from the sunshine, the sun has decided to play hard-to-get.

                                (Global Warming may giveth me more riding weather but Global Dimming seems to taketh away the joy of the actual rides ...)

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