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  • #16
    Ray,
    Do those amt's have a ribbon tweeter? Hial or something like that? I came real close to buying a set of speakers with that style tweeter when I bought the E-30's.
    Nothing worse than having your toys in lockdown.
    RIP Whiskers (Shop Boss) 25+yrs

    "It doesn't hurt until you find out no one is looking"

    Everything on hold...

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    • #17
      The heil air motion tweeter is best described as a "folded ribbon" tweeter, having attributes of both electrostatic and ribbon designs. It is electrostatic in operation.
      Guy

      '78E

      Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur

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      • #18
        [QUOTE=latexeses;256220]The guy I got this A1 from had a bunch of Rotel stuff he was selling as well. A Rotel RA 1062 for one. B&W 602, 600... Don't know much about them
        QUOTE]

        B&W speakers are the recording studio quality and depending on size very costly. My brother had a pair of them over 20 years ago that he used to run with 2 Luxman M02 amps. He paid 10K for the speakers alone. Apple recording was using B&Ws back then and may still be using them.
        Rob
        KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

        1978 XS1100E Modified
        1978 XS500E
        1979 XS1100F Restored
        1980 XS1100 SG
        1981 Suzuki GS1100
        1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
        1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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        • #19
          B&W 801's were the industry standard reference speakers for nearly all audiophile reviewers for years through the '80s and '90s, for all speakers up to about the $10,000 range. Very, very accurate speakers.

          600 series are also very accurate but could use a subwoofer on the low end.
          Last edited by Guy_b_g; 02-08-2010, 08:18 PM.
          Guy

          '78E

          Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur

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          • #20
            800 series was what he had. They were 1/2 the size of the average sized fridge. It took 2 people to even think about taking them up a set of stairs. The sound was unbelievable. And what's even more unbelievable is after he passed away in an auto acct., his widow went on a drinking / drug doing binge with the very large insurance settlement, and she let the kids KICK the speakers in. All of them on each tower. I managed to receive one of the 2 Luxman M02 amps that I still have today. The CD6000 Tanoys I have were replaced by those B&Ws. Crap, He paid 3K for the Tanoys as display models so I snapped them up for 1500 no questions asked.
            Rob
            Last edited by 79XS11F; 02-08-2010, 08:25 PM.
            KEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN

            1978 XS1100E Modified
            1978 XS500E
            1979 XS1100F Restored
            1980 XS1100 SG
            1981 Suzuki GS1100
            1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
            1983 Honda CB900 Custom

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            • #21
              Yes, they DO have the "Heil" air motion transformer on them. 12" woofer, 12" passive and the transformer on top. Speakers are about 85 Lbs. each. The "tweeter" isn't a ribbon as much as a stack of plates. It really does look like an old transformer, minus a lot of the wire wrap. VERY clean sound. I ended up with an Onkyo (sp?) amp, as it was the only amp I could afford at the time that I DIDN'T hear any distortion from! The Kenwoods, etc. ALL put junk into the music, and the Onkyo was just the music. I LOVED late Jazz and Rock with my early system.
              Ray Matteis
              KE6NHG
              XS1100 E '78 (winter project)
              XS1100 SF Bob Jones worked on it!

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              • #22
                My first and current (they are the same) stereo consisted of an Onkyo T-4090 tuner and an Onkyo A-7070 intigrated amp. I also had a turntable and tape player also Onkyo. Later purchased a Nakamichi 582Z discrete head tape deck and a B&O 1800 turntable. Both still in the system.
                The B&O had some trouble with a Telarc recording of the 1812 overture. It literally tossed the tonearm out of the grooves. If anybody has seen the record you would understand. It just required a tonearm with more mass. Other than that one record it souded terrific. That might have been helped by the speakers.
                RIP Whiskers (Shop Boss) 25+yrs

                "It doesn't hurt until you find out no one is looking"

                Everything on hold...

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                • #23
                  I have a complete Pioneer set with Paradigm surround speakers. Works very well.

                  The Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround amp was subbed in instead of a turntable, and the set includes a Hi-FI VHS recorder...

                  Placement of the speakers is key.

                  The front R&L speakers are oversized, for rock'n'roll.

                  The system also incudes an automated cassette burning system, which gets very little use these days.

                  I do have a Sony turntable with a new needle, just in case I ever decide to transfer my records to disc.
                  Last edited by Crazcnuk; 02-09-2010, 04:53 PM.
                  Nice day, if it doesn't rain...

                  '05 ST1300
                  '83 502/502 Monte Carlo for sale/trade

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                  • #24
                    Wow, most of you guys are at another level in the audiophile world than I but, I thought I would let you know what I have and see what you guys think, so give me some feedback... I have an old Pioneer SX-650 receiver and 4 Kenwood KL 777-S. They look identical to these on the left... They are a little big for my receiver but they put out plenty of sound without pushing the receiver. One day I want to have a SX-1010 or larger, or any of the larger 6 channel receivers from that era... Anyways, I need to dissassemble and clean all the contacts because I have some static in 2 of the channels. Any recommendations on cleaning chemicals and lubes to use on this vintage equipment? Thanks.
                    '79 XS11 F
                    Stock except K&N

                    '79 XS11 SF
                    Stock, no title.

                    '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                    GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                    "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by WMarshy View Post
                      ... Anyways, I need to dissassemble and clean all the contacts because I have some static in 2 of the channels. Any recommendations on cleaning chemicals and lubes to use on this vintage equipment? Thanks.
                      This is the stuff...

                      http://store.caig.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.178/.f

                      '78E original owner
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                      '78E original owner - resto project
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                      '79F parts...
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by crazy steve View Post
                        This is the stuff...

                        http://store.caig.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.178/.f

                        '78E original owner
                        Thanks for the advice Steve, and comments on my speakers, quality wise, anyone have any knowledge about them? I think they have great sound but what do I know...I bought them becuase I though the more speaker the better but have since learned that has nothing to do with it... I bought them from the original ower who purchased them in Okinawa Japan when he was stationed there. I got all for for 300 bones in their original boxes, in MINT condition!
                        Last edited by WMarshy; 05-27-2010, 05:02 PM.
                        '79 XS11 F
                        Stock except K&N

                        '79 XS11 SF
                        Stock, no title.

                        '84 Chevy K-10 "Big Blue"
                        GM 350, Muncie SM465, NP208, GM 10 Bolt with 3.42gears turnin 31x10.5 Baja Claws

                        "What they do have is an implacable, unrelenting presence and movement that bespeaks massive power lurking behind paint and chrome. They don't wail like a screeching ninja, the don't rumble like a harley. They just growl like a spactic, stressed out badger waiting to rip your face off and eat your soul." Trainzz~RIP~

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                        • #27
                          While I'm not a big fan of Kenwood or most other Japanese brand name manufacturers when it comes to speakers, I think you did OK.

                          A pair just sold on ebay in England for 200 Pounds, so there is some demand for them.

                          And they seem to get pretty good reviews at the vintage audio forums.
                          Guy

                          '78E

                          Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur

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                          • #28
                            My phonograph has a supply of bamboo needles that can be switched for the steel ones to give a mellow sound.
                            Fred Hill, S'toon
                            XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                            "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                            • #29
                              My phonograph has a supply of bamboo needles that can be switched for the steel ones to give a mellow sound.

                              Well, you know, with the war shortages and all....
                              RIP Whiskers (Shop Boss) 25+yrs

                              "It doesn't hurt until you find out no one is looking"

                              Everything on hold...

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                              • #30
                                My phonograph has a supply of bamboo needles that can be switched for the steel ones to give a mellow sound.
                                You probably bought that Victrola with the bamboo needles new... didn't ya Fred?
                                Guy

                                '78E

                                Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur

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