The motorcycle as an artform.

[Ivan]

That's probably the most jackassed thing I've ever read. Nuff said

You sure you're not related to Simon Cowell?

[Guy_b_g]

[joceiphus]

First of all, about 98% of OCC's bikes go to people or companies that just display them. An that is good because although they look great, they ride very badly. The bikes of Jesse James are in the same catagory, the people who have the money to buy them, have never seen one moving, have never ridden one of them, and they are just trophies to the buyer. The owner has a need to be seen by his/her peers. You have to have the most 'bitchin' bike in the crowd, even though riding one of these things more that 50 miles will put you in line at a hospital for hip and knee replacment surgery! The kind of bikes we here at ch.11 have, have to handle well and be very comfortable for the extended rides we make. So when we mod them, it is in the direction of handling and comfort. When we get our bikes to that level, we are much more satisfied and happy than the "trophy bike" owner.
Nuff said, Ole Jack

That's probably the most jackassed thing I've ever read. Nuff said

[xs11jack]

I have to go along with Fred,

First of all, about 98% of OCC's bikes go to people or companies that just display them. An that is good because although they look great, they ride very badly. The bikes of Jesse James are in the same catagory, the people who have the money to buy them, have never seen one moving, have never ridden one of them, and they are just trophies to the buyer. The owner has a need to be seen by his/her peers. You have to have the most 'bitchin' bike in the crowd, even though riding one of these things more that 50 miles will put you in line at a hospital for hip and knee replacment surgery! The kind of bikes we here at ch.11 have, have to handle well and be very comfortable for the extended rides we make. So when we mod them, it is in the direction of handling and comfort. When we get our bikes to that level, we are much more satisfied and happy than the "trophy bike" owner.
Nuff said, Ole Jack

[XSokieSPECIAL]

After nearly four years of college with the purpose of getting a Fine Arts degree, here is MY view as to what I consider "art" or not.

It needs to exist in some form, and it needs to be created or influenced by humans.

Manufactured objects? Art. Movies? Art. Speaking? Art. Writing? Art.

By this definition, the only things that are NOT art are things like pure nature (a rarity, nowadays) and intangibles, like ideas. Should these ideas be voiced, they are then art, but before that? No.

The distinction comes on whether art is GOOD or not. That, of course, is purely subjective, and up to the individual.

My two cents, anyway.

I'll give you a whole buck for that!

[Lucien Harpress]

After nearly four years of college with the purpose of getting a Fine Arts degree, here is MY view as to what I consider "art" or not.

It needs to exist in some form, and it needs to be created or influenced by humans.

Manufactured objects? Art. Movies? Art. Speaking? Art. Writing? Art.

By this definition, the only things that are NOT art are things like pure nature (a rarity, nowadays) and intangibles, like ideas. Should these ideas be voiced, they are then art, but before that? No.

The distinction comes on whether art is GOOD or not. That, of course, is purely subjective, and up to the individual.

My two cents, anyway.

[Pat Kelly]

Who defines what "art" is? A painting is considered art by some people. Is it functional? Maybe, if it's covering a hole you knocked in the wall.
Is a sculpture art? Is it functional? How about music? Light shows. Gymnastics. Porn. Circ de Soliel? Dog shows. Movies?
Does art have to have function, or does that ust apply to motorcycles? Or, is the statement that only a motorcycle that percorms a certain function considered art? What about freestyle motocross? Evil Knievel? Trials? Stunt bikes?

[Ivan]

You are not supposed to ride "art" in the rain!

Its been said that singing in the rain is a wonderful fdeling that will make you happy again, so if you are ever riding some OCC "art" and it starts to rain, the logical conclusion is to sing, and twirl your scoot around a lamp post.

I would say that the best customizations are at speed with the pegs being beveled and your engine guards chamfered. Now THAT, my friends, is art.

[T99Ford]

You are not supposed to ride "art" in the rain!

[fredintoon]

There's a reason that fenders reach as far back as they do.

- - - I'm so close to putting it all back together but I just can't bring myself to cut the frame.......I know I can do a good job, that most people wouldn't even notice it's not factory. Should I do it? or not. - - - -

Hi xs11lover,
to cut or not to cut, it's up to you. But while a few moments with a Sawzall will do the job, there's no backsies without a load of work should you change your mind afterwards.
And while a truncated rear fender may look real nice, a ride in the rain with one will get you a muddy streak up your back that won't look nice at all.

[T99Ford]

What harley did you take the seat from? Did you have to modify it alot or was it pretty much that way. I am in love. I have to have one!

[XSokieSPECIAL]

I made the seat on the orange bobber from a harley seat. The bike didn't reject it.

YET!

It looks ok even though I'm not a bobber fan.

I think Fred might REALLY want some pics.

[xs11lover]

Ouch,I should have known.
I like the style of the xs11 for any date..before or after. The seat just says 1979 kinda goofy.

I made the seat on the orange bobber from a harley seat. The bike didn't reject it.
I'm ready for the Harley jabs...No I don't want one.

[fredintoon]

- - - I love the xs11 look but the seat has always been too big, too ugly, and too dated for me. - - -

Hi xs11lover,
the important thing about a bike seat is that it should fit the rider's rear end.
You are saying that your rear end is too small, too pretty and too modern for the seat.
Photos please?

[fredintoon]

Okay, not all of it qualifys as art...

Gee Brian,
how can you say that?
A 1930's Ariel SV single outfit towing a trailer that (presumably) hauled in the 4-valve single race bike in the background.
That's classic art!