Visited a local Yamaha/Kawasaki dealer over the weekend to help my friend buy a helmet. I was wandering around and stopped by the service desk and noticed the service rate listing. An oil change cost $110 - LABOR ONLY!
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So if I just changed the oil, as well as that in the middle and final drives... can I justify buying some more stuff for the bike now?
The more you save the more you can spend... right?
81 SH Something Special
81 frame, 80 tank and side covers, 79 tail light and carbs, 78 engine, 750 final drive mod, Geezer rec/reg, 140 mains, LH wheels
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If I can make at least one person smile, or pee their pants a little, or maybe spit out their drink; then my day is not wasted.
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Originally posted by randy View PostLeave it to a woman to..nevermind.
I don't have a job to quit... so I guess I can charge half their rate and do oil changes? A couple a week would pay for most of my motorcycle habit...81 SH Something Special
81 frame, 80 tank and side covers, 79 tail light and carbs, 78 engine, 750 final drive mod, Geezer rec/reg, 140 mains, LH wheels
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79 SF MEAUQABEAUXS
81SH Nor'eas tah (Old Red)
80 LG Black Magic
78 E Standard Practice
James 3:17
If I can make at least one person smile, or pee their pants a little, or maybe spit out their drink; then my day is not wasted.
“Alis Volat Propriis”
Yamaha XS 1100 Classic
For those on FB
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Now now don't forget this is a complicated not to mention dangerous task best left to the professional kid (oops) that they hired to do oil changes. Last time I let anyone else change the oil on a bike they messed up and I had to reposition the filter cup so it sealed. And this was at the only shop in town that I used to trust.http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1241/1480921818_241eade448_s.jpg
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What gets me is that people actually PAY that!! They give no thought to the fact that they could do it themselves for the cost of a family dinner at McD's, with very limited knowledge, and a few simple tools. I know the service tech's need to make a living, and the shop often determines the hourly rate, but my local shop charges $65/hr. I can't imagine an oil change taking even CLOSE to an hour!1980 XS850SG - Sold
1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).
Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
-H. Ford
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Originally posted by CatatonicBug View PostWhat gets me is that people actually PAY that!! They give no thought to the fact that they could do it themselves for the cost of a family dinner at McD's, with very limited knowledge, and a few simple tools. I know the service tech's need to make a living, and the shop often determines the hourly rate, but my local shop charges $65/hr. I can't imagine an oil change taking even CLOSE to an hour!
Hell even with removing my headers and stuff, I could do it and back together in an hour'80 XS 1100 Standard
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Yes, our bikes are easy to do oil changes on. How many new bikes are this easy? Bodywork to remove, disposal of the used oil costs$ (I remember a guy bought our shops' used oil, now you pay for hazmat removal). Mechanic's wages are higher. Shop utility costs are higher. Everything costs more.
Did you complain last time you got a raise? "No boss, that is too much $ for what I do". That's the good and bad when you get paid flat-rate as a mechanic. If flat-rate lists 1 hour to do a particular job and you can do it in half-hour you come out ahead. if it comes back you fix it for free. If it takes 5hours you get paid 1 hour. In most cases the mechanic gets 1/2 the shop labor rate.
I'm not justifying any one shops labor rate. Just passing along how it is. This is why we work on our own bikes. We recently added 600 sq. ft. to our home. We did it all ourselves (except for the linoleum floor in the bathroom). Saved a ton of money as there was no labor cost and we know that it was done right. But, some construction company and their workers didn't make any money. Any members on this list work in construction? Anyone work on computers? You get the point. We pay someone else to do the things we can't or won't do. I now drive a truck. I get payed to haul food from our warehouse to another warehouse and I get paid (well) for it. You don't like how much I'm paid (which is in what you ultimately pay for your food) then till-up that nice lawn and plant your own food. Get a cow and raise it and butcher it yourself.
I've always felt "if someone else can do it then I can do it. But do I want to?"Pat Kelly
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1978 XS1100E (The Force)
1980 XS1100LG (The Dark Side)
2007 Dodge Ram 2500 quad-cab long-bed (Wifes ride)
1999 Suburban (The Ship)
1994 Dodge Spirit (Son #1)
1968 F100 (Valentine)
"No one is totally useless. They can always be used as a bad example"
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Well put. I've always done my own work for the savings and satisfaction, I was just taken aback at the amount posted for an oil change. Mine usually takes more than an hour if I count the beer breaks. I guess I really DO have it better than a dealer mechanic!
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Thats All?
Well it is New Yawk...so I'm not surprised in the least...would I pay someone that rate? Hell No... Even on my soon to be sold ST1100 I do my own oil...once the tupperware is removed...piece of cake...or pie1980 XS650G Special-Two
1993 Honda ST1100
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The cost of shop maintenance is one of the reasons I bought the XS1100 when I re-entered the motorcycle sport. Having owned one in the past I knew how to maintain it and knew it was an easy bike to wrench on.
RobKEEP THE RUBBER SIDE DOWN
1978 XS1100E Modified
1978 XS500E
1979 XS1100F Restored
1980 XS1100 SG
1981 Suzuki GS1100
1983 Suzuki GS750S Katana
1983 Honda CB900 Custom
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Wow, $110 for an oil change, labor only! I guess I owe me alot of money have a nice day and ride safeI am the Lorax, I speak for the Trees
'80 XS1100 SG (It's Evil, Wicked, Mean & Nasty)
'79 XS1100 F R (IL Barrachino)
'00 Suzuki Intruder 1400 (La Soccola)
'77 KZ400s (La Putana)
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Here in the St. Louis area,
one of my friends rides a 85 Honda gold wing and the dealer changes his oil and filter for $210. Another friend bought a new Harley in 2007 and rides it 65 miles to the dealer he bought it from and the dealer only charges him $360. I know these prices sound like I been smoking silly putty, but I am telling the truth. I offered each one a deal of $50 and they said "We like the confidence the dealer oil changes give us." I guess that explains why they ride the bikes they do. I don't argue with them, they are, in all other things good people.J.D."Jack" Smith
1980G&S "Halfbreed"
1978E straight job
"We the people are the rightful masters of both congress and the courts, not to overthrow the constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the constitution." Abraham Lincoln
Life is like a coin, you can choose to spend it any way you wish, but you can only spend it once. Make your choices wisely.
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Originally posted by xs11jack View Postone of my friends rides a 85 Honda gold wing and the dealer changes his oil and filter for $210. Another friend bought a new Harley in 2007 and rides it 65 miles to the dealer he bought it from and the dealer only charges him $360. I know these prices sound like I been smoking silly putty, but I am telling the truth. I offered each one a deal of $50 and they said "We like the confidence the dealer oil changes give us." I guess that explains why they ride the bikes they do. I don't argue with them, they are, in all other things good people.1980 XS850SG - Sold
1981 XS1100LH Midnight Special (Sold) - purchased 9/29/08
Fully Vetterized and Dynojet Kit added, Heated Grips, Truck-Lite LED headlight, Accel Coils, Irridium plugs, TKAT Fork Brace, XS850LH Final Drive & Black SS Brake lines from Chacal.
Here's my web page devoted to my bike! XS/XJ User's Manuals there, and the XJ1100 Service Manual and both XS1100 Service manuals (free download!).
Whether you think you can, or you think you cannot - You're right.
-H. Ford
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