Did anyone see this?

[Shuriken]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-son-back.html

[trbig]

Son on the back was probably hollering in his ear... "I thought you said this thing was fast.. or are you really the scared little wuss that Mom says you are?"

[CatatonicBug]

Not only is he going too fast, but he's even driving on the WRONG side of the road!!

[XS1100_OEM4ME]

Times have changed

Being 50 something, I can remember buying my first new motorcycle. It was 1979 and i had been lusting after a bran new XS1100 Special. I went to the dealer and found it was just out of my price range so I bought an
XS 750 Special. After owning it for a few weeks I took it back because the rear seal leaked every time i went over 100 MPH. They ask me how often I went over 100MPH and I said "every time I get on the bike!" Those were the good old days. Anyway, I never got over not getting that XS 1100 Special so I bought one about a year ago. 17,000 miles and never ridden in the rain. It had a pop and back fire so I completly rebuilt the carbs but it still does it when cold, seams to run lean, any suggestions?

[Crazcnuk]

The part that bothers me is that there is no proof that 122mph is actually dangerous. Rain or not.

Many modern vehicles are capable of safely travelling on our interstates at that speed or higher.

The article also points out that the passenger was not wearing gloves, etc, So what? The state does not make those things mandatory, so why is it worth mentioning?

If we made it that the state had to PROVE it's case (danger), not just charge people and have it rubber stamped, they would have a hard time with cases like these.

[madmax-im]

Being 50 something, I can remember buying my first new motorcycle. It was 1979 and i had been lusting after a bran new XS1100 Special. I went to the dealer and found it was just out of my price range so I bought an
XS 750 Special. After owning it for a few weeks I took it back because the rear seal leaked every time i went over 100 MPH. They ask me how often I went over 100MPH and I said "every time I get on the bike!" Those were the good old days. Anyway, I never got over not getting that XS 1100 Special so I bought one about a year ago. 17,000 miles and never ridden in the rain. It had a pop and back fire so I completly rebuilt the carbs but it still does it when cold, seams to run lean, any suggestions?

Running lean is a carb condition so maybe it needs rejetting As for the guy doing 122 mph with his 14 year old on the back...common sense says this aint too smart regardless of one's definition of what is dangerous...BTW in my book this is excessively dangerous especially for the passenger.

[planedick]

Running lean

For XS1100_OEM4ME.... Sometimes it will help the lean condition by just raising the floats. If the exhaust is still stock and the airbox is stock, probably just raising the floats will do it.

[DGXSER]

Seems to me shortly ago there was an article (however tha tis spelled) here in a young lady who was on the back of her boyfriends bike going 140 MPH, now has skin graphs over half of her body. Wind took her off the bike.

There is a reason we say a 14 yo can not drive or make their own decisions. So it is the adults requirement to make the right decisions and keep the childs safety the primary guiding factor at all times. This dude threw that out the window. If you want to go fast and end up with the nickname "spot" so be it, go have fun and hope it works out for you. But there is no way someone should put a 14 yo in that situation.

[Crazcnuk]

Yes, but if you look at it that way, you should never have your kids on a bike at all.

Bikes are killer machines you know.

It's just ego that makes you think it's ok at whatever speed YOU like to travel, and everyone else is an idiot.

I am not saying he was safe, either, just that no one proved he was having any difficulty.

It seems to me that it's mostly SUV's and P/U trucks that appear every day in the accident reports.

[madmax-im]

Yes, but if you look at it that way, you should never have your kids on a bike at all.

Bikes are killer machines you know.

It's just ego that makes you think it's ok at whatever speed YOU like to travel, and everyone else is an idiot.

I am not saying he was safe, either, just that no one proved he was having any difficulty.

It seems to me that it's mostly SUV's and P/U trucks that appear every day in the accident reports.

You have to remember that safe operation of a motor vehicle is also relative to other motor vehicles you share the road with...Just because a machine is capable of doing triple digits doesn't mean doing so is safe. Given the weather as well and this was a foolhardy decision. The guy even admitted that it was unsafe. So this tells me he either hates his family and himself or has $**T for brains... or both.

[DGXSER]

Bikes did not do anything, and never have, let alone kill. Just like guns, bikes don't kill, the idiot in control of it can though. Like I said, I don't question or care of anyone elses right to go as fast as they want. I have gone WAY to fast in all matters of vehicles in the past and probably will again. I do however take precautions to see that no one, especially my children, are in harms way. I do feel that we have an obligation to those around us and with us not to put them in harms way because of our decisions. Kinda like those folks that go out and kill 100 people then kill themselves, should just start with themselves instead.

I also have children close to 14 yo, and I feel that if I ever did that with them on the bike, or in a cage, I hope someone hits me over the head with something big and heavy. I hope my relationship with my children is close enough that they trust me with their safety beyond question. I also hope I never take advantage of that trust the way I feel this guy did to his son. JMHO.

[Crazcnuk]

I was being fecitous about the 'killer' part.

However, many would call you selfish. As you stated you have travelled too fast out there, yet while willing to risk other people's kids, you are unwilling to risk you're own.

Personally, I have travelled too fast, many times too, according to the authorities, but I still like to think I am doing it as safely as I can.

All the times I have been more than double the speed limits, I have not had a problem, yet many have killed themselves, or others at 'normal' speeds. Would your children be safer with me or with them?

Maybe the guy who is willing to put his valuables where his mouth is is a little more confident?

Again, this whole thing is based on being 'dangerous by arbitrary number' not by any true measure of danger.

If the guy was sliding around, or all over the road, or otherwise having SOME sort of difficulty then, yes, you could call him an idiot.

I fully understand that the speed limits are not so much to protect other drivers from me, but to protect me from other drivers. I rarely speed, these days. Just very short bursts on deserted roads. My issue is with a system that says "on this side of the line all is perfect, but you cross this line and your the scourge of the earth."

[renegade_xs11g]

When I first saw this....the I thought the guy was an idiot, that hasn't changed

even after thinking about it for a couple of days, but I do see the point that
no one has proven 'carelessness'
still, he had his child's life in his hands...
Yes, he admitted that it was dangerous, blah, blah, blah.
More than likely, that was just in front of the judge, and he was thinking that admitting it would bring a lighter sentence,

I'll tell you a little story,

Just before LaborDay '08, my nephew(in-law)'s mother-in-law, (don't think about that so much)
anyways, she was the passenger on her BF's Harley, both had been drinking...
he lost control on a ramp, layed it down, hit the guard rail,

the details are kinda sketchy, but

HE left the seen on his bike, WITHOUT her, before emergency crew showed up,
she was unresponsive, airlifted with major head trauma,
the hospital, didn't know who she was, just that she was the passenger in a crash,

HE went home, showered, slept, then went to the hospital, with a 'work related injury'

in the meantime, SHE DIED!!!!!!!!!!

Well, now he's in prison, where he belongs
But what gets me? they had been seeing each other for a few years, and were engaged,
HE LEFT HER FOR DEAD, but he loved her?

NOW THERE IS AN IDIOT!

[trbig]

There was a video like that posted on here before. Guy wakes up from a bike wreck.. finally comes back around. Keeps trying to call his wife to tell her he's ok... final scene shows her dead on the ground at the crash site.

I don't know the pertinents.. but he could have been out of it from the wreck and not realized... but he may have gotten scared also.

Tod

[DJinNH]

You have to remember that safe operation of a motor vehicle is also relative to other motor vehicles you share the road with...Just because a machine is capable of doing triple digits doesn't mean doing so is safe. Given the weather as well and this was a foolhardy decision. The guy even admitted that it was unsafe. So this tells me he either hates his family and himself or has $**T for brains... or both.

Don