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Anyone ever see the movie made about an actual event happened in the early 80s in Canada....I think it was a 737 that was involved please correct me if wrong anyway the plane was not given enough fuel for the flight to Calgary and glided for 300 miles after running out of fuel to land on an abandoned airbase outside of Winnipeg, Manitoba, the crew had no hydraulics no power, the plane landed roughly with some damage no injuries to anyone and the plane was repaired after the event and was just retired from service this year......I guess they had one hell of a time with the controls trying to line it up with the runway no hydraulics and all..
Bruce
Doug Mitchell
82 XJ1100 sold
2006 Suzuki C90 SE 1500 CC Cruiser sold
2007 Stratoliner 1900 sold
1999 Honda Valkyrie interstate
47 years riding and still learning, does that make me a slow learner?
Wow, makes me feel like small-time. My biggest stick time was in a Grumman HU-16 Albatross, but the biggest in-flight emergency was when my mother and I were flying a rented Cessna 172 and we lost the engine. Good thing we had just flown over a nearby airport, and a buddy of ours was there in his Beechcraft so we got a nice ride home. Still scared the daylights out of me though, I was only 8 at the time!
But I still fly to this day, and I'm planning to start skydiving this spring.
"Scary" was the following ten to fifteen minutes that a friend of mine with the USBP let me take the controls of his helicopter over the Florida Keys. I drove patrol boats for US Customs back then.
The final straw was when he asked if I saw the pelican coming towards us. I told him I had had enough fun and he could take back over. Too much work for me. Think I'll stick to the boats.
Don
currently own;
1980 Yamaha XS1100 SG
2009 Yamaha Star Raider
I wish I had some photos or film footage to share with you all when some of our USCS UH-60A Black Hawks would pratically land on suspect boats we were chasing. On the pursuit boat, I was a little busy at the time. Dark, sometimes raining, windy, didn't matter...these pilots were nuts.
How'd ya like a 50', 17,000 lbs (with fuel tank in cabin) aircraft hovering only feet above your boat as you are fleeing at 60+ knots? That with maybe about 150 mph rotor wash will give you something to think about.
Don
currently own;
1980 Yamaha XS1100 SG
2009 Yamaha Star Raider
Hi Bruce,
the Gimli Glider was a Boeing 767. It was the first Air Canada plane to have a video game dash instead of real instruments, be calibrated in metric units and to fly without a flight engineer. When the pilot went to secondary methods to calculate how much fuel he'd need for the planned flight the conversion factors in the manual gave an answer in kilos but he thought it was in lbs so he ended up with only half the required fuel. So yes, he was awarded a prize for his incredible skills in dead-sticking his plane to a safe landing but he did break the pilot's first rule:- "A good pilot lets his careful planning obviate the need to display his incredible skill" As even I know (after many years riding with no fuel gauge in my bike) the ONLY safe thing to do when your fuel gauge is out is to top off the tanks, not rely on a pocket calculator.
Fred Hill, S'toon
XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
"The Flying Pumpkin"
Hi Bruce,
the Gimli Glider was a Boeing 767. It was the first Air Canada plane to have a video game dash instead of real instruments, be calibrated in metric units and to fly without a flight engineer. When the pilot went to secondary methods to calculate how much fuel he'd need for the planned flight the conversion factors in the manual gave an answer in kilos but he thought it was in lbs so he ended up with only half the required fuel. So yes, he was awarded a prize for his incredible skills in dead-sticking his plane to a safe landing but he did break the pilot's first rule:- "A good pilot lets his careful planning obviate the need to display his incredible skill" As even I know (after many years riding with no fuel gauge in my bike) the ONLY safe thing to do when your fuel gauge is out is to top off the tanks, not rely on a pocket calculator.
This is why we here in the US keep the SAE standards of measurement. It's much easier to crash in miles than kilometers. I'll bet that hit you like 907.18474 kilos of bricks.
Hi Bruce,
the Gimli Glider was a Boeing 767. It was the first Air Canada plane to have a video game dash instead of real instruments, be calibrated in metric units and to fly without a flight engineer. When the pilot went to secondary methods to calculate how much fuel he'd need for the planned flight the conversion factors in the manual gave an answer in kilos but he thought it was in lbs so he ended up with only half the required fuel. So yes, he was awarded a prize for his incredible skills in dead-sticking his plane to a safe landing but he did break the pilot's first rule:- "A good pilot lets his careful planning obviate the need to display his incredible skill" As even I know (after many years riding with no fuel gauge in my bike) the ONLY safe thing to do when your fuel gauge is out is to top off the tanks, not rely on a pocket calculator.
I have a buddy with a sweet computer program that he runs before every flight we make. He gives an aircraft, the weight of the people onboard, and flight plan. The program gives him fuel quantities AND CG calculations for differing fuel loads (CG at takeoff, CG at landing, etc...). And I believe he got it for free.
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