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  • #61
    ABS

    Tod, you ride a XJ. Did I remember correctly that they have a type of ABS on them along with anti-dive? Would that have any effect on "laying down" a bike? If I'm not remembering that right then I've asked a stupid question.
    1979XS1100SF
    K&N's and drilled airbox
    Jardine 4in1
    Dunlop Elite 3's
    JBM slide diaphragms
    142.5 main jets
    45 pilot jets
    T.C.'s fusebox & SOFA
    750/850 FD mod.
    XV 920 Needle Mod.
    Mike's XS plastic floats set at 26mm
    Venture Cam Chain Tensioner

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    • #62
      XJ

      Tim
      Not ABS but a linked braking system with an equilizer. The rear brake pedal applies the rear brake and the right front caliper at the same time.
      Doug Mitchell
      82 XJ1100 sold
      2006 Suzuki C90 SE 1500 CC Cruiser sold
      2007 Stratoliner 1900 sold
      1999 Honda Valkyrie interstate
      47 years riding and still learning, does that make me a slow learner?

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      • #63
        Off to the shower to remove the smell...

        Originally posted by trbig


        LOL.. Another strong opinion from someone who's obviously never had to make that choice. Seeing you aren't going to be able to avoid something and making the conscious effort to slide sideways and lay the bike down to hit with two tires sideways where the impact drives you into the seat as opposed to one while sitting up where you go up and over.

        Your reasoning and assumption that there is NEVER a time or place for this seems to me to be the thing in that crock that smells.


        Tod
        Tod, your right I've never had to make that "choice" and I hope to keep it that way. My opinion is just what it is and as my dad always tells me Opinions are like ass-holes, every body has one and they all stink.

        now then, your argument is that its better to hit the pavement at lets say 45mph and then still hit whatever it is you want to avoid hitting, then it is to hit "whatever" at 25mph. Your bike will slow down much faster if your using the brakes then if your sliding along on your case guards.

        Another article

        This opinion brought to you by an arm-chair crash aficionado with a funky aroma.

        -Brian
        1979 xs1100 Special -
        Stock air box/K&N Filter, MAC 4-2 exhaust, Bad-Boy Air horn, TC fuse box, Windshield, Soft bags, Vetter Fairing, Blinkers->Run/Turn/Brake Lights, Headlight Modulator, hard wire GPS power

        Short Stack - 1981 xs1100 Standard - lowered for SWMBO.

        Originally posted by fredintoon
        Goes like a train, corners like a cow, shifts like a Russian tractor, drinks like a fish, you are gonna love it.
        My Bike:
        [link is broken]

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        • #64
          Originally posted by psycoreefer
          I think the best/easiest thing you can do to help survive a crash is wear your gear, helmet, gloves, jacket, pants, and boots.

          If your the "textile" type then there are tons of options with "armor".

          If your the "black leather" type then there are more and more options with armor everyday.

          If your the "muscle shirt & jeans" type then buy lots of life insurance.

          Heck they've even got jeans lined with Kevlar so you can look "cool" and be protected.

          I won't tell you how to ride but if you want to survive an accident gear is the way to go, it doesn't matter how you land/roll/slide/fly if you've got more layers between you and the hard surface your about to come into contact with your better off.
          +1 ...couldnt say it any better ATGATT PEOPLE!
          1980 XS650G Special-Two
          1993 Honda ST1100

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          • #65
            Originally posted by strippedFJ
            No wonder you tits think that your XS11's are fast, and handle.

            Go ahead TC ban me, we'll race to see who can remove my profile first OK?

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            Ok, I think it is you "twits", not tits. (I have nuthin against tits, fact thats my problem, haven't been against any way to long!!!)

            I would think that any 30 year rig that can still clear 100-140mph would be considered "fast". Remember, "its how well you go fast, not how fast you go".

            Handling, ok, I will give you that one. Compared to a late model rig, they are a bit ponderous but then again if you are riding a newer, improved, faster, better bike, find there website and play with them. If you gotta ride your R6, Gx'er, Hybusa, ZR, with a bunch of 26-30 year old bikes, ya might wanna practice more so you can go play with them and leave the old bikes alone. We have feeling to you know. ( I gotta go now, gonna do tune up on my XS WITHOUT a laptop)


            T.C., The guillotine, the guillotine!!!!!
            When a 10 isn't enough, get a 11. 80g Hardbagger

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            • #66
              From the Vincent Owner's Club magazine, 1950s

              What to do when going 100mph down a county road and Farmer Giles drives his tractor out of his field right in front of you.
              Sit up straight and hold your gauntlets out in front of you. The slipstream will lift you off the bike. Let the bag of nails rattle down the road on it's own and push the accident out of the way before you get there.
              Fred Hill, S'toon
              XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
              "The Flying Pumpkin"

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              • #67
                I once took the top quarter inch off my helmet I am very glad it was the helmet and not my head. I have ridden without a helmet but that was my choice. No way will I try and defend that choice as being a safe choice it is not.
                http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1241/1480921818_241eade448_s.jpg

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                • #68
                  "Ok, I think it is you "twits", not tits."

                  Hi Webb,
                  in the Australian dialect a tit can mean a small songbird or a breast but is mostly used to imply "foolish &/or immature person". So yeah, the bastard's right in his word usage even if his conclusions are suspect. Note that "bastard" in Australianspeak is a description, like the US "guy" or the Brit "chap" rather than an insult.
                  Fred Hill, S'toon
                  XS11SG with Spirit of America sidecar
                  "The Flying Pumpkin"

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                  • #69
                    Your choice it still is

                    Originally posted by olebiker
                    I once took the top quarter inch off my helmet I am very glad it was the helmet and not my head. I have ridden without a helmet but that was my choice. No way will I try and defend that choice as being a safe choice it is not.
                    I'd hate to have a nanny state dictate to us what we can or cannot do in the name of safety..for our own good.Common sense says that ATGATT is better than not.But its always your choice.
                    As for you stripped...you are nothing more than an arrogant self centered bastard.Over here we have just the beer for you...
                    1980 XS650G Special-Two
                    1993 Honda ST1100

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                    • #70
                      Lord

                      This thread is headed for the crapper ,, grow up people
                      Doug
                      Doug Mitchell
                      82 XJ1100 sold
                      2006 Suzuki C90 SE 1500 CC Cruiser sold
                      2007 Stratoliner 1900 sold
                      1999 Honda Valkyrie interstate
                      47 years riding and still learning, does that make me a slow learner?

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                      • #71
                        Re: Your choice it still is

                        Originally posted by madmax-im

                        Common sense says that ATGATT is better than not.
                        This is a little XStreme but he makes a point.....


                        A TRUE BIKER - ATGATT
                        My 1978 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/mstic2000/xs.jpg

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                        • #72
                          What to do when going 100mph down a county road and Farmer Giles drives his tractor out of his field right in front of you.
                          I think a parafoil would be the best at that time.
                          Ich habe dich nicht gefragt.

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                          • #73
                            Re: "Ok, I think it is you "twits", not tits."

                            Originally posted by fredintoon
                            Hi Webb,
                            in the Australian dialect a tit can mean a small songbird or a breast but is mostly used to imply "foolish &/or immature person". So yeah, the bastard's right in his word usage even if his conclusions are suspect. Note that "bastard" in Australianspeak is a description, like the US "guy" or the Brit "chap" rather than an insult.
                            ************************************************** **

                            Got it and hafta admit, at times I am a tit. I gotta go stock up on some "pints" ('cept round here we call em 40's, which is not to be confused with a tit measurement, referring to wingspan of course) now cause Ike is posta be here tonight.


                            Yea, I guess this post has been pretty much beat to death, (thats what you get for not wearing your helmet).
                            When a 10 isn't enough, get a 11. 80g Hardbagger

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                            • #74
                              Crawling out of the crapper...

                              Tim,

                              They are correct. A stock XJ's system is linked. The back pedal operates the back brake and front left caliper. On my bike however, I have disconnected this linked system.

                              Front and back brakes effect a bike in completely different ways. When I want back brake, I didn't want a 27+ year old valve deciding on how much pressure to apply to the front!?

                              Maybe a touch on the "Control Freak" side, but it's worked for me so far.

                              Tod
                              Try your hardest to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are.

                              You can live to be 100, as long as you give up everything that would make you want to live to be 100!

                              Current bikes:
                              '06 Suzuki DR650
                              *'82 XJ1100 with the 1179 kit. "Mad Maxim"
                              '82 XJ1100 Completely stock fixer-upper
                              '82 XJ1100 Bagger fixer-upper
                              '82 XJ1100 Motor/frame and lots of boxes of parts
                              '82 XJ1100 Parts bike
                              '81 XS1100 Special
                              '81 YZ250
                              '80 XS850 Special
                              '80 XR100
                              *Crashed/Totalled, still own

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                              • #75
                                Re: Re: Your choice it still is

                                Originally posted by mstic2000


                                This is a little XStreme but he makes a point.....


                                A TRUE BIKER - ATGATT
                                Thats XStreme alright...a bit goofy too...not exactly what I had in mind...LOL
                                1980 XS650G Special-Two
                                1993 Honda ST1100

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