HELP! ID Stolen!!Can someone tell me what to do?

[Bigfoot]

Seems to me that there have been some pretty serious accusations with other people jumping to conclusions without hearing from the person that is being accused. You started this post by accusing Jim of theft of a credit card as well as identity theft but you didn't use his name or the name of his business or even his screen name on this site? You did give enough information that people would figure it out though. That is just sort of odd. If you are going to warn people about someone or accuse someone why not just come out and say it? Why beat around the bush? It does seem that you may have a little bit of an agenda against Jim.

I am not trying to defend Jim, I do not know him and have never dealt with him. I have seen other posts though where something was stated and everyone jumped on the bandwagon bashing the person before hearing all of the facts.

If this did in fact take place I hope that the culprit is prosecuted and that justice is served.

[Bigfoot]

All that shows is that the guy got sued in civil court. That could be for almost anything and obviously is not a criminal charge.

[JACKHAMMER01]

It sure is funny how people automatically know all the facts, as if they were actually sitting in my office when business partnership papers were signed!!!!!
Which is exactly what happened!

29, your "friend" offered to become a business partner and assumed the role/duties of Chief Financial Officer. Said duties to include "assisting the company in obtaining working capital & lines of credit." All of which he did. Hence the accounts in the company name, with him as guarantor of said accounts. In other words, his credit strength was used by him to obtain the necessary accounts needed to grow.

Once his wife found out what he did, without her permission, she pulled his man-card! That's when he went to claiming Identity Theft. He sat here daily during lunch and approved all purchases by the company, and only later started this BS.

The reason the police, and the CC companies don't beleive him in his charges, is simple. The paperwork proves that his claims are false!

By the way, he is only 54 years old, he can read, and he does have a MC endorsement. And is also a high school graduate.

All customers sign a ticket when work is performed here, and every other reputable shop in this country. It is done so the bike owner can authorize the work needed to be done. I will not work on a bike without that authorization signature. Never have, never will.

As far as name changes go, Jackhammer Cycles is STILL in business. Vindicator Cycles, LLC is the MANUFACTURING business that I founded. It is a SECOND business. The change to Vindicator Cycles, Inc was forced on us by the actions of your "friend", not by choice. My attorney advised us to make the change to Inc in order to protect the company assets. So it was done.

Now, to 29desertniteyes, I don't know you and you don't know me. But the next time you visit Myrtle Beach, I do hope you have the decency to stop by my shop and introduce yourself. Instead of hiding behind a keyboard on an online forum. Because to date that is all you have done. You have continually attempted to trash me on this board, and it is enough! So whatever your agenda is, get over it!

Madmax-im, Ben, I can only assume that your remark about picking anyone off at 200+ yards real easy is just you trying to sound more courageous than you probably are. Since you and I have only communicated on here, I can't say for sure about that. But believe this, Ben, threats are pointless, have no place here, and I, like most people I know, don't respond very well to them.

And of course if the government says it, it must be true. Just ask any Native American Indian about the trustworthiness and truthfulness of the government!

Mitch, and Bigfoot, and Dsxs11, thanks for being a voice of reason.

[BobE]

As I've always believed, there are two sides to every story. I am always fascinated at how different each constituent's version can be over the same issue.

Thank you, Jim, for giving us your side. It is too bad that actions on this board have compelled you to feel it necessary to do so, for it is none of anyone's business but yours and the other gentleman.

I hope this conflict can be resolved in an amicable manner and both party's livelihoods can be preserved with a minimum of damage.

[fredintoon]

I dealt with Jim

I swapped gas tanks with Jim Horton.
It took a while for his tank to get to me which caused me some concern and triggered a posting to this site and then a personal visit by TC to Jim's place in Myrtle beach and then a few phone calls between Jim & I where he explained he'd been hospitalized after a collision but would put the tank in the mail right soon. And hey, I got the tank as promised. I have no idea if all my whining and the third party visit was needed to get my tank in the mail or whether Jim would have sent it anyway as soon as he was fit. And it is nobody's fault but mine that I fritzed up the tank Jim sent and had to buy another one. But if indeed that un-named aggrieved person did get a drivers licence etc despite being illiterate "because you could do that back then" I wonder where in the USA in 1972 you could do so?

[CarolynS]

Sorry but...

Seems to me like your friend is a 'big boy' and can take care of himself. Where is he in all of this? Conspicuously absent...
Seems to me that this is a problem that should be taken care of privately. Not here.
I understand feeling like someone has been wronged, but that is their problem to deal with, and to remedy.
Be cautious in this world with whom you trust, and in whom you believe. There are always two sides to every story. And with all two ended things, it is always possible to be crushed in between them. Choose your battles wisely.
Preserve yourself, let the rest make their own headway...or not.

[29desertniteyes]

Some of us work

Well, Jim, the way I hear is that he did not sign no papers. That there is a business card of 14,000.00 that a payment has never been made. Plus capital one card, chase card, dell computers, and verizon, etc., these companies have yet to rec'd a pyt. So if you giving you the benefit of doubt went into partnership than why would the bills not be paid???????????
I understand you have documents saying he got the credit, then you are paying the bills, right???? And my friend is fussing due to his wife. So if the all in all, paperwork, then you are paying the bills and should write his wife a letter telling her you are paying the bills and to keep her tt's out of it.
Do have any comment on the type of judgment it for or who it was for??? Because, dude I really would like to know all of your side and to give u the benefit of all doubts.

[prometheus578]

"Hey... if this really was a big stinkin' deal..."

Ya know... sort of odd...
T.C. writes a thread in March(ok, Feb. 29th, close enough), and you sign on here in April.
As a matter of fact, your first post was in response to the one T.C. started concerning Jackhammer/ Vindicator/Vindicator Cycles/ whomever.
You've been on this guy's ass since day one.
Last week, when I was in one of my moods... debating whether to let this thread continue or not, I went back and counted all your posts. No surprise that the majority consisted of vitriol against you-know-who.
(Nothing surprises me anymore)
Having spent a few days in the motorcycle industry, I suppose I've got a working knowlege of how things sort of run. Of course, along with that comes a familiarity with the denizens of the other side of the service counter.
Sure, there may be shady shop owners... just as I can imagine there are functionally illiterate customers... or business partners.
What really happened...
What's the truth here...?
Sadly, none of us will ever know.
I'm not involved... and contrary to what you think, neither are you.
I think the proper forum would be with the state's Attorney General's office or some other legal venue. (meaning, this is not the forum to espouse your suspicions and suppositions)

"Black and White does not lie" I was taught that if it is listed with the gov't than it has to be legal.
...apparently the Horry County Police Dept does not see that...
Well gee whiz... Seems that the Govt.'s agents have already looked into the situation and seem satisfied with it's legality.
I guess then, that so am I.

You did accomplish your main goal though, that of frivolously casting doubts about... and sullying someone's reputation.
Sadly, (though it strikes me as humorous) someone else's reputation has also taken a big hit.
...bit of a Pyrrhic victory, ain't it?

Give it a rest, will ya?
(Note that I didn't preface that statement with "please")

[egleaves]

Well said, Prometheus, well said.

[fredintoon]

Hi Prom,
ordinarily I'm all in favour of a good ruckus but this here one is long on spite and innuendo while being real short on proven facts.
If our hero really thinks Jim Horton is a thief and a liar let him come out and say just that. And take the legal consequences.
Pull the plug on the bastard?

[madmax-im]

one more time

I wasnt gonna say anything more but...I just wanted to publicly state my apology to Jim Horton.While I have yet to see any substantial proof of these alleged events...I nonetheless went off half cocked.No one wants to get ripped of so my comments abt picking you or anyone off at 200 yds was a bad choice of words on my part..So if you dont accept my apology..its understandable.This whole discussion should have been handled thru the back door and not the front...I have learned something from this..so all is not a total waste.It is unfortunate that it comes at the expense of a friendship...
As it was I had to change my plans anyway,but somehow it didnt come out the way it should have.I got caught up in the accusations and the apparent attempt to slight you by one individual.So for alowing myself to get sucked into this I am sorry.Thats all I have to say on this...time for this thread to go away.........................

[Dsxs11]

Originally posted by madmax-im

Sir.. the real story is that aparently Jachammer cannot be trusted and that everything he has told others was a lie...actions speak louder than words...there are public records that show the judgements against him.There is alot more behind closed doors that you sir do not know abt...so before you go accusing someone of intentionally going out of their way to "trash" this guy pls get all the facts straight.

Before you start pointing fingers you might want to get your facts straight. Although I do love to see people sway in the breeze and choose a side then unchoose it. shows who you can't trust. And I'm almost certain you can't be.

[tiredoffixing]

This is motorcycle sight, a very helpful one i might add. Why are we talking about about
this on here?Jackhammer if my bike ever broke and I was in your area I would have you fix it. 29.. go somewhere else and talk BS

[madmax-im]

Originally posted by Dsxs11


Before you start pointing fingers you might want to get your facts straight. Although I do love to see people sway in the breeze and choose a side then unchoose it. shows who you can't trust. And I'm almost certain you can't be.

I may have been wrong but at least i have the balls to admit it...
I dont give a rats @$$ abt whom you think you can trust...those that know me ,will attest to my trustworthiness.

[Dsxs11]

From what I can see the court of public opinion could change your mind. Or the wind. It's funny when.
I said something I got blasted but when the same thing is said by a moderator your all apologetic
Seems like an ******* move to me and I should know I'm an ******* but at least I'm man enough to take a stand and stick with it.
Grow some balls admitting your wrong is not having balls, having balls is giving the man the benefit of doubt and looking through the 30 post's by the OP and seeing more then half are trashing Jim.
I had given you benefit of doubt until you swayed like a blade of grass in a slight breeze it really shows your lack of character.