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[howdy_doody]

Mine started blowing main fuse...

Mine were working perfectly until I had some alternator problems last year. After getting that sorted out, I tried using the turn signal and immediately blew the main fuse! Only way I could get turn signals to work was to disconnect the self canceling unit.

I have no idea what could be causing this but wold welcome any suggestions.

[3Phase]

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Mine were working perfectly until I had some alternator problems last year. After getting that sorted out,

Howdy, Howdy_Doody!

What was the alternator problem last year and what did you do to sort it out?

I tried using the turn signal and immediately blew the main fuse! Only way I could get turn signals to work was to disconnect the self canceling unit.

I have no idea what could be causing this but wold welcome any suggestions.

Just to be clear:

The 30A Main fuse blows when the Turn Signal switch is used with the Flasher Canceling Unit connected but the 20A Signal fuse does not blow.

The Turn Signals work with the stock three-pole Flasher Relay -- no drama but no self-cancel.


The are normally no non-fused wires anywhere in the Signal circuit that could set off the 30A Main fuse so, what was the alternator problem last year and what did you do to sort it out?

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[TomB]

My self cancelling works faultlessly..... I find my arms ache and I have to drop them if I leave them out by accident

[howdy_doody]

Howdy, Howdy_Doody!

What was the alternator problem last year and what did you do to sort it out?



Just to be clear:

The 30A Main fuse blows when the Turn Signal switch is used with the Flasher Canceling Unit connected but the 20A Signal fuse does not blow.

The Turn Signals work with the stock three-pole Flasher Relay -- no drama but no self-cancel.


The are normally no non-fused wires anywhere in the Signal circuit that could set off the 30A Main fuse so, what was the alternator problem last year and what did you do to sort it out?

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Field windings were shorted out to ground. I replaced them and charging system working fine. Yesterday my turn signals quit working entirely and I suspect the problem in the switch housing. I had it apart last year to repair a solder joint. I noticed the Hazard Lighting (also in the switch housing) runs thru the Main fuse, maybe a clue?

[motoman]

Field windings were shorted out to ground. I replaced them and charging system working fine. Yesterday my turn signals quit working entirely and I suspect the problem in the switch housing. I had it apart last year to repair a solder joint. I noticed the Hazard Lighting (also in the switch housing) runs thru the Main fuse, maybe a clue?

That would be initial suspect. Had similar thing happen after re-soldering one of those wires. Had to resolder, as the heat was the final blow to those teeny wires......breaking loose and runnin' amuck in there.

[3Phase]

Field windings were shorted out to ground. I replaced them and charging system working fine. Yesterday my turn signals quit working entirely and I suspect the problem in the switch housing. I had it apart last year to repair a solder joint. I noticed the Hazard Lighting (also in the switch housing) runs thru the Main fuse, maybe a clue?

I feel like Paul Harvey today. You sort of forgot to mention that you'd dug into the Turn Signal switch when you fixed the alternator!

If the Brown/Yellow wire from the Hazard Flasher was shorted inside the Signal switch that would blow the 30A Main fuse because the Hazard circuit comes straight off the Ignition switch with no other fuse except the Main fuse.

There is one wire at the Turn Signal switch that comes up from the Self Canceler and it's the Yellow/Red wire. The Yellow/Red wire is a 'momentary' ground that sets or resets the timer in the Self Canceler whenever you press the Turn Signal switch lever all the way to the left or right but it'd still be a momentary ground even with the Self Canceler removed from the other end of the wire.

I'm scratching my head over a combination that would blow the Main fuse when the Self Canceler is connected but work with just the Signal Flasher.

[howdy_doody]

Well as I mentioned my turn signals completely quit last night. After taking seat and tank off (really getting tired of this) I found one of the connectors from the switch was not fully plugged in. Plugged it in and signals work fine. Went ahead and plugged in the auto canceler and everything working perfect!

I'm gonna try and forget this whole episode, can I change my vote?

[Orange4]

Don't work. PO replaced the original flasher with a 2 prong.

[DenyP]

Don't work

Something I have been meaning to address. I have a replacement cancelling unit and flasher now, so I need to get to it.

Deny

[LoHo]

My SC hasn't worked in years. A while back I replaced the bulb in the speedo and noticed the glass covered coil in the speedo was broken. Can I assume this plays a part in the self canceling unit? Is there a replacement for that, I dunno...resistor? Or rheostat? Whatever it is? I could look it up, but you guys have spoiled me.

[jetmechmarty]

I can't find it in the breakdown. I expect it's not an LRU (line replaceable unit). I'm sure there are a bajillion broken speedometers that can donate pieces. Even the XS650 had self canceling signals. That's a lot of speedometers!

[donebysunday]

I've a bunch of these reed switches if you want one HOLLER. Even have one with bullet connecters .

[Orange4]

While I have your attention, how does one get the trip meter knob off without destroying something? I want to get my self cancels working.

[donebysunday]

While I have your attention, how does one get the trip meter knob off without destroying something? I want to get my self cancels working.

The trip knob is left handed thread, keep that in mind.
The only way I've found to get them loose is grab the rod they are screwed onto with a needle nose and hold it as you turn the knob to the right.
Problem is you need to take the face off the speedo to get to the rod, you know that's a job you can do without !
Good news, you don't need to take the trip knob off to replace the reed switch and I have a bunch of them. Yours for the asking.
I've gotten so used to canceling them my self I think I'll pull the wires off the self canceler, they flash longer than I want or they don't flash long enough.

[BA80]

The trip knob is left handed thread, keep that in mind.
The only way I've found to get them loose is grab the rod they are screwed onto with a needle nose and hold it as you turn the knob to the right.
Problem is you need to take the face off the speedo to get to the rod, you know that's a job you can do without !
Good news, you don't need to take the trip knob off to replace the reed switch and I have a bunch of them. Yours for the asking.
I've gotten so used to canceling them my self I think I'll pull the wires off the self canceler, they flash longer than I want or they don't flash long enough.

No need to pull any wires, just plug a standard 2 prong flasher in where the OEM one is and no more self cancel.