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    Hey Folks,

    I've always enjoyed reading and learning about the origins of common words and phrases, and how they came about earning their meaning when they don't sound anything like what they say!? So...I'm going to post some that I've learned, and then ask if others will post some that they know of!

    IT's amazing how many terms have come from nautical applications or experiences.

    A Square meal: During colonial times in Brit Navy, to keep your food from sliding around the table, your plate was placed inside this square platter with raised edges, so your job earned you room and board with a "Square Meal"!

    Worse than a loose cannon: Again, during wooden battle ship times, cannon were very heavy, but during battle sometimes the heavy ropes that secured them would be severed, and with the ship tossing around, this ton heavy object rolling and sliding around below deck could cause serious damage!

    Got so cold it could freeze the balls "off" a brass monkey:
    Same or earlier naval period, cannon balls were stored on deck in pyramid style pyles, but there was this short metal square rim around the base that held them in place. IT was made of BRASS, called the monkey. But cannon balls are Iron, and temps on deck can change tens of degrees very fast, and the brass would shrink faster than the iron, and the size leverage ratio would be reduced, and the cannon balls would then roll over=OFF the brass monkey all over the deck!!!

    Threshhold In earlier times the floors of homes were made of dirt. People wove matts made of natural fibers to place at the door. The material was made from THRESH, but it could slide easily, so they had to use something to secure the thresh matt!!

    Raining cats and dogs: Homes...were often built into the side of hills/mountains, mere thatched roofs and mud brick walls. Animals, domestic ones would often climb up onto the roof via the mountain side to rest, etc.. During foul weather, the roofs would often fail, and the animals would then fall thru the roof into the home, hence rained so hard it was raining cats and dogs!

    Wake & Dead Ringer & Saved by the Bell:Medievel times, knowledge about death and Xsive use of alcohol caused some folks to be accidentally buried alive! SO...first, they would lay the person out at home, and hold a "WAKE" for several days to see IF the person were merely in an alcoholic stupor/coma and see if they would AWAKEN! THEN, when they did get around to burying them, they would tie a string to their finger/hand and run it up thru the ground to a BELL on a poll by the grave. IF the person were alive, when they awoke they could/would pull on the string sounding the bell, hence a Dead Ringer, and then the person working the GRAVEYARD SHIFT would dig them back up, and they would have been saved by the BELL! This was later used during boxing as well....saved by the boxing round bell!

    Making money hand over fist In ancient times, coins were minted manually, using a hammer and hand held die, the coins were placed on a table, and the person would hold the die in their fist and strike it with a hammer to imprint the image!

    Okay, let's hear some more! T.C.
    T. C. Gresham
    81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
    79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
    History shows again and again,
    How nature points out the folly of men!

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    Tips in a restaurant - Way back when, a patron would come into an eatery and place an amount of money on the table. Whenever poor service was given some of the money would be taken back. What was left was the tip. The money was "To Insure Prompt Service" T.I.P.S
    1981 Eleven Special

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    • #3
      The whole 9 yards refers to (and don't quote me on the details) the lengths of ammunition used be air craft during WW1/2. It came in 9 yard lengths.

      Close but no cigar is from back in the days, the strong man contests at carnivals and such where you hit the pad with the giant hammer trying to send the little weight up the tube to ring the bell... If you could ring the bell you would get a cigar as a prize. If not, 'close but no cigar.'
      Last edited by 81xsproject; 01-05-2008, 10:09 AM.
      '81 XS1100 SH

      Melted to the ground during The Valley Fire

      Sep. 12th 2015

      RIP

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      • #4
        The whole 9 yards

        I was taught that 'The whole 9 yards' referred to the maximum capacity of a cement mixer truck, 9 cubic yards being a full load.

        If you ordered a full load, you got the whole 9 yards dumped.

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        • #5
          whole nine yards

          I think it comes from the sale of cloth by the bolt which held 9 yards of cloth and if you bought a full bolt you bought the whole 9 yards.
          Fastmover
          "Just plant us in the damn garden with the stupid
          lion". SHL
          78 XS1100e

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          • #6
            The whole 9 yards

            maximum capacity of a cement mixer truck
            Used to be about 4 cubic yards.
            27 foot Ammo belt? I don't know, Prom might...

            I'd bet it originated as a football expression.


            mro

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            • #7
              "Before this goes too far..."

              Might I suggest:
              http://www.wordorigins.org/index.php/big_list/

              You'll find most of the explainations will have you saying, "Yeah, that makes more sense".. than what you previously held to be true.


              Sorry, no jokes, insults or levity today.
              Day number one... quiting smoking, and I'm in a real "pissy mood".
              (Hey, someone look up the meaning of that)
              "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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              • #8
                Fun Facts & Phrase Origins

                In the 1400's a law was set forth in England that a man was allowed to beat his wife with a stick no thicker than his thumb. Hence we have 'the rule of thumb'

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                Many years ago in Scotland , a new game was invented. It was ruled 'Gentlemen Only...Ladies Forbidden'...and thus the word GOLF entered into the English language.

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                The first couple to be shown in bed together on prime time TV were Fred and Wilma Flintstone.

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                Every day more money is printed for Monopoly than the U.S . Treasury.

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                Men can read smaller print than women can; women can hear better.

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                Coca-Cola was originally green.

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                It is impossible to lick your elbow.

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                The State with the highest percentage of people who walk to work:

                Alaska

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                The percentage of Africa that is wilderness: 28% (now get this...)

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                The percentage of North America that is wilderness: 38%

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                The cost of raising a medium-size dog to the age of eleven: $ 16,400

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                The average number of people airborne over the U.S. in any given hour:

                61,000

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                Intelligent people have more zinc and copper in their hair.

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                The first novel ever written on a typewriter: Tom Sawyer.

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                The San Francisco Cable cars are the only mobile National Monuments.

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                Each king in a deck of playing cards represents a great king from history:

                Spades - King David

                Hearts - Charlemagne

                Clubs -Alexander, the Great

                Diamonds - Julius Caesar

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                111,111,111 x 111,111,111 = 12,345,678,987,654,321

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                If a statue in the park of a person on a horse has both front legs in the air, the person died in battle. If the horse has one front leg in the air the person died as a result of wounds received in battle. If the horse has all four legs on the ground, the person died of natural causes.

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                Only two people signed the Declaration of Independence on July 4th, John Hancock and Charles Thomson. Most of the rest signed on August 2, but the last signature wasn't added until 5 years later.

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                Q. Half of all Americans live within 50 miles of what?

                A. Their birthplace

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                Q. Most boat owners name their boats. What is the most popular boat name requested?


                A. Obsession

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                Q. If you were to spell out numbers, how far would you have to go until you would find the letter 'A'?


                A. One thousand

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                Q. What do bulletproof vests, fire escapes, windshield wipers, and laser printers all have in common?


                A. All were invented by women.

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                Q. What is the only food that doesn't spoil?


                A. Honey

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                Q. Which day are there more collect calls than any other day of the year?


                A. Father's Day

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                In Shakespeare's time, mattresses were secured on bed frames by ropes.

                When you pulled on the ropes the mattress tightened, making the bed firmer to sleep on. Hence the phrase......... 'goodnight, sleep tight.'

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                It was the accepted practice in Babylon 4,000 years ago that for a month after the wedding, the bride's father would supply his son-in-law with all the mead he could drink. Mead is a honey beer and because their calendar was lunar based, this period was called the honey month, which we know today as the honeymoon.

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                In English pubs, ale is ordered by pints and quarts... So in old England , when customers got unruly, the bartender would yell at them 'Mind your pints and quarts, and settle down.'

                It's where we get the phrase 'mind your P's and Q's'

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                Many years ago in England , pub frequenters had a whistle baked into the rim, or handle, of their ceramic cups. When they needed a refill, they used the whistle to get some service. 'Wet your whistle' is the phrase inspired by this practice.

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                Don't delete this just because it looks weird. Believe it or not, you can read it.

                I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh?
                Jerry Fields
                '82 XJ 'Sojourn'
                '06 Concours
                My Galleries Page.
                My Blog Page.
                "... life is just a honky-tonk show." Cherry Poppin' Daddy Strut

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                • #9
                  Lock,stock,& barrel = parts of a gun . I can't remember, but I think you all wrong about the whole 9 yards. Old truck might have held less then 9 yds, but as long as my dad has been in the trade they have held 10yds.
                  Madbiker

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                  • #10
                    The Whole Nine Yards.

                    Thanks Prom for that site!

                    Well, according to that site, it states that there is NO CONCRETE..pardon the pun... evidence of the actual origin of the phrase "the whole nine yards", but that it was recorded in use in the early mid 60's, first around the military, USAF.

                    This would lend more credence to the ammunition theory, they state that the belt holding the 50cal on planes was about 27 feet or 9 yards long....however "they" argue that ammo wasn't measured in that term, but in rounds....but remember, this is a SLANG type phrase!!!

                    Another explanation was about when a paratrooper had to jump, taking his weapon, backpack, etc., along with the chute...which was supposedly made up of 9 yards of fabric!? However, the chutes were appx 35 feet in diameter which would have required more than the 9 yards of fabric!?

                    Another parodoxical one was the football reference, meaning that he actually fell short of his goal being 10 yards, but he only went the whole 9 yards!?
                    SO....pick one you like and stick with it!
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                    For our friends in the UK:

                    BLOODY: A slang term of swearing intent. I looked this one up also, again, "they" say they can't determine the exact origin, but the one I read in a book of old nautical terms and such over 25 years ago that my uncle had explained it as thus:

                    They used to use the phrase "by our lady", not sure if it was the lady of the house, or the queen, etc., but I believe in reference to needing permission to do something, and the resentment about it?? And thru use, slowly got contracted,....By'r-lady, and eventually into Bloody! Hope that's Bloody well right!

                    T.C.
                    T. C. Gresham
                    81SH "Godzilla" . . .1179cc super-rat.
                    79SF "The Teacher" . . .basket case!
                    History shows again and again,
                    How nature points out the folly of men!

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                    • #11
                      Three Dog Night

                      A term used in early American(or native American) times describing how cold it was last night. People would sleep with their dogs to survive.

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                      • #12
                        On the radio I heard that another possible source of the phrase "the whole nine yards" was from sailing days. Three masts with three yardarms means nine yards when under full sail.

                        BTW my mixer truck is 10.5 yards legal and 12.5 at full mixing capacity.

                        Rob

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                        • #13
                          I thought a dog night was from Australia
                          Madbiker

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                          • #14
                            The best site regarding "the whole 9 yards" is:
                            http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/...5_attestation/

                            Excerpts:
                            The amount of dirt in a large burial plot;
                            The number of properties, or yards, in a standard city block in New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Levittown, (pick your city);
                            The amount of cloth used in a burial shroud;
                            The capacity of coal trucks; and
                            The number of yards on a square rigged sailing ship (yards being the horizontal poles that hold the sails), even though it was not uncommon for such ships to have eighteen yards.
                            One final possibility is that it does derive from American football, but was originally intended to be ironic. To go "the whole nine yards" was to fall just short of the goal.

                            In summary, this is just one of those idiomatic phrases that defy explanation. This may not be satisfying, but it is not uncommon in English.

                            Continued:
                            May 13, 2005 e-mail response from Richard Stratton)
                            Barry,

                            The most unique request I have received since 1973!

                            Etymology of "whole nine yards"?

                            1. Where first heard?
                            Navy School of Preflight in July 1955 at the ACRAAC (Aviation Cadet Recreation and Athletic Club - a base beer hall; NavCad's could not use O Club). Home of salacious & scatological songs, shaggy dog stories and off beat humor.
                            2. What meaning then?
                            Referred to the mythical Andy McTavish's private member and the scarf knitted by him for the birthday of his affianced, Mary Margaret MacMuff.
                            3. Explained in detail?
                            Yes, in great detail. One of a series of stories and songs enshrining the courtship of Andy and Mary Margaret.
                            4. US or VN?
                            United States - NAS Pensacola FL
                            5. Aviator usage in 1973?
                            The "whole nine yards" joined "the whole kit and caboodle" as meaning "all inclusive", "containing each and every element" and "a whole without any exceptions". It had lost all sexual reference or innuendo.

                            Attached for your information.

                            Dick


                            (See the next entry for the attachment -- ed.)

                            The next entry is:
                            http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/...cotsmans_kilt/
                            Jerry Fields
                            '82 XJ 'Sojourn'
                            '06 Concours
                            My Galleries Page.
                            My Blog Page.
                            "... life is just a honky-tonk show." Cherry Poppin' Daddy Strut

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                            • #15
                              Jerry:
                              Check out
                              http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cokelore.asp

                              I have been around a few years and I remember that my grandfather telling me to go to the store and get him a dope, which meant Coca-Cola. It was brown in a green glass bottle. The first sales were at a drug store and to my knowledge it was always brown and served in a clear glass by a soda jerk so named as he jerked the handle on the soda water dispenser several times into a brown syrup mixture.

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