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  • Been playing with my 80G

    It's been running well the last 18,500 miles with stock jetting, air box and exhaust. Pulls good at all rpm's and gets about average fuel milage for an XS....but....
    Few days back decided that just maybe Yamaha had to tune the XS on the lean side for EPA reasons. So cheapest way to "richen" it up was to raise the fuel level in the bowls, which I've done.

    Had not re-sync carbs and it ran at about 85 percent of the power it had before changing float level (seat O the pants dyno)

    This afternoon decided I run down to the shop and sync em.
    Fired right up and as I was pulling away felt like it was not hitting on all four. Several things came to mind, pick-up coil wires?, more crud flowing out a the tank? ......well shop not that far a way so just rode it like it was.

    Parked in front of the roll up and went around to get inside and open the shop. As the roll up opened I got a whiff of fuel. Walk over and sure enough.... got gas in the air box.

    So it was going to turn into a carb cleaning too.
    Got the air box off but could not tell which carb(s) were leaking.
    So set petcocks to prime.....no leak....had a smoke and came back and still no leak. Stuck key in and fired it up and it, still was running ruff, bent over to look at the carbs and a steady stream of gas was flowing out of #4. WTF!?!

    So checked compression...good, checked spark...good.
    Pulled carbs and opened up number 4, looks as clean as when I’d just cleaned em. Opened up the rest and no problems to be found.

    Put em back on the bike, left the air box off and fired it up. Ran just fine.

    Reinstalled air box and sync’ed the carbs and rode home. Now seems to have the same power it had with stock float height. Didn’t wind it up past 6500 tho.

    Did notice that some of the “ping/nock” has been diminished but is still there. Will run a few tanks thru it to check milage and also maybe a little enthusiastic riding to see how she preforms.

    Right now it’s got 110 mains across the board. If not much difference in milage and power may reset floats to stock and go up one on the mains.

    Anybody ever get fuel flowing back out of a carb only when its running?



    mro

  • #2
    Almost sounds like the floats are too high and when the bowl is full, it isn't letting it close the needle valve. Then with the bike at an angle when stopped it's letting it fill up enough (When stopped)??

    Do you still have the octo on it? This would only let fuel flow with vaccum to it while running.

    Tod
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    • #3
      Hi Tod,
      G is a standard, but have stock petcocks that work.
      Bike was idleing about 1200 rpm on center stand when I saw fuel running out #4 carb, steady small stream too

      Fuel level is just under a mm higher than spec..
      Spec calls for setting floats at 23 mm (+ -, 0.5mm)
      Set em 22.2mm


      mro

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      • #4
        Maybe you just had a little piece of crud that lodged itself in the needle and seat and it was a coincidence when it happened. Awhile back I was leaving the house and down the block it started to leak fuel and began to run really bad. I stopped and watched it pour out for a second then I tapped the bowl of the offending carb and it stopped. Has not done that since.
        Mike Giroir
        79 XS-1100 Special

        Once you un-can a can of worms, the only way to re-can them is with a bigger can.

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        • #5
          "Not to needle you more than I usually do..."

          Float needle on #4.
          Worn needle, or as the others have correctly opined, float level or crud.
          Anybody ever get fuel flowing back out of a carb only when its running?
          If the petcocks work properly, it should only flood when running, then, it's a float/needle issue.
          If it floods when not running, it's a petcock and float/needle issue.
          "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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          • #6
            Had thought that with engine running, fuel would have been sucked thru head and blown into exhaust even if that cylinder not firing (think it was firing at higher rpm tho)

            Float needles are in good shape and it's running just fine at the moment.


            mro

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            • #7
              Not at the rate an open needle flows. I've had it happen before.
              "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a mechanic!' ('Bones' McCoy)

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              • #8
                Don't know if ...

                this thread would help .... but it seems pertinent. ...

                http://www.xs11.com/tips/repair/repair23.shtml
                80G Mini-bagger
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