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**jjz28** · 10-28-2013, 01:47 AM

if you would put mufflers and the airbox on you probably would not sell it. That thing cant run right at all without the muffler or airbox unless you jetted it. I took the muffler and airbox off of my xs750 and it has no power at all. Had all kinds of power before I took them off.

**BA80** · 10-28-2013, 03:24 AM

Most people won't buy a bike that the frame has been butchered on either.

No offense intended but once you make it yours, it's yours.

**IanDMacDonald** · 10-28-2013, 09:01 AM

I think that bike actually looks pretty damn nice! However, I really hope you don't ride that bike for more than a few minutes without air filters. The selling price is too high without mufflers. I know plenty of XS1100's around here that sell for less, and they have the original exhaust still on them.

**Crazy Damian** · 10-30-2013, 12:50 AM

A little info guys.

Well first I wouldn't say it has been butchered.
Modified yes, Butchered implies that it's been really messed up.
and if that 17 inches of steel pipe that holds the stock seat and rear fender is that big of a deal to someone then, this bike wouldn't be for them.
But if someone was already making a bobber, what I removed is something they would already be planning on removing.
On the jetting, yes it has been jetted, and you are correct that most bikes will run like crap if you remove the mufflers and the airbox. A certain amount of back pressure is required from the exhaust when you have an airbox or restrictive air filters on a bike.
Like the ad says guys, Unfinished project.
Like it sits though, I can go crank it up right now jump on the road and if I have enough straight road I can go from 0-125 on it without hesitation. And yes that's without mufflers and without any air filters. Would I recommend riding it like that all the time, no I would not, Again, Unfinished project.
A fast as hell, mean, heavy, steers like a brick on steroids, 35 Year old, unfinished project.
I'm not selling it because it doesn't run right, or because I can get it to run right. It runs fine and when mufflers are put on, then the bolt on air filters go on and it will still run right, might require some more tweaking but nothing anyone with a little incentive and knowhow can't do I've worked on enough motorcycles in my 44 years to know.
And if an interested party thinks the price is too high they are more than welcome to make an offer they would be happy with and it will be considered.
So tell me guys, why do you feel the need to bust my balls so bad?
On second thought, don't answer that question, just keep it to yourself and lets all stay Happy, Happy , Happy!

**DGXSER** · 10-30-2013, 05:31 AM

HI Damian,

Realize that this forum is filled primarily with folks who like and enjoy the stock look of the XS11, very few modified bikes get the nod around here. Kind of like a corvette owners group that see a vette with a big spoiler on the back, maybe those eye lash looking things on the headlights...etc.
The comments you got here were actually pretty tame, mostly just suggestions to make it run better / easier to tune. It is very rare indeed for anyone to get an XS11 to run worth a plugged nickel with open pipes.

I live in the Nati, just south of you, West side. I have owned and worked on several bikes as well. Bought and sold a couple XS11's and worked on several other local XS Owner's bikes.

As for the price your selling it for, two things will make it harder for you to sell at that price. Timing and unfinished customization.

As November is almost here, a bike is something to take up space in the garage right now, only people looking to buy want a project. And those people want to buy cheap, do the work, and likely sell the finished bike in the spring when prices peak. Or they are on a small tight budget, have more time than money kind of thing.

The other is that it is customized, and unfinished, making it a smaller market the bike will appeal to. Not only do they need to do work on the bike, but figure out what parts of what systems were modified and how to make those work. The manuals just became a lot less useful, and the parts dealer will have trouble helping them find the right parts. With the frame cut like that, it is a lot more work to reverse it and make it a stock bike again if someone does not share your vision for the bike.

A completed fully operational XS11 in the spring around here will sell for about $1,500 give or take a couple hundred. So $1,200 in the late fall for a bike that needs work, and custom work at that, is pretty steep. Keep in mind that exhaust is one of the hardest and more expensive things to find for these bikes.

I've seen the CL ad, and looked at it with some interest. I'm a bit of a cheapazz, and not a fan of the custom look you have going on there, so to me that bike might be interesting at $400-500. Not saying you won't sell it at your price, but it will take just the right person seeing it.

Good luck with your sale.

**Crazy Damian** · 10-30-2013, 05:09 PM

Well there is no doubt this is not the time of year to squeeze a dollar out of any motorcycle.
but this is the for sale section, not the, hey tell me what you think I need to do with this bike section.
If I was asking people for advice on how to make it run better or asking them what they thought about how it looked, that would be different.
Personally I don't like the ones that get chopped down to a hard tail and have all the welding done to them, but I don't go out of my way to criticize someone for trying to sell one.
and as for those straight pipes, the only reason the mufflers were cut off is because they were totally rusted out and a PO had wrapped sheet metal around the mufflers and used sheetrock screws to secure it in place. It looked like crap, so I cut the mufflers off, exactly like described in another section of this website, in preparation for some sort of slip-on muffler, I mean you aren't going to repair badly rusted out mufflers.
At no time did I plan on leaving it with straight pipes, it's way too loud and a waste of power.
here look at the pics of it from when I picked it up.
http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36818
And to be honest, maybe I've just been dealing with too many craigslisters but I really didn't expect anyone to pay $1200 for it. but I also wouldn't sell it for 400-500.
the piece of metal from the Shock tower back only holds the turn signal, supports the stock seat and the fender.
But again I say, if someone is looking to go all stock, this isn't for them.
So just curious now, what do you guys think someone would pay for just a complete XS1100 Engine and set of carbs with good compression to put on their own frame?

**BA80** · 10-30-2013, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by Crazy Damian View Post

So just curious now, what do you guys think someone would pay for just a complete XS1100 Engine and set of carbs with good compression to put on their own frame?

I don't see any with carbs but this will give you an idea.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw...0063&_from=R40

**DGXSER** · 10-30-2013, 05:15 PM

Like I said, I am a cheapazz. However, I know I can pick up a decent engine for about $100, and a set of carbs if they have been fully cleaned and freshened up with new seals, float valves and O-rings where applicable can fetch $200. If they need cleaning and such, I have gotten two sets for $100 before, along with a set of parts carbs.

No doubt you can actually make more money selling the parts than you can selling the bike.

**DCII** · 10-30-2013, 07:37 PM

Damian, if you do a search on Craigslist in other cities in Ohio you will see what your competition is on XS11s, I did a quick search and found several complete bikes in the $500 to $750 range. I have to agree with Don on his estimate of the value this time of the year, as he said the unfinished project and the customized frame will really limit your market. Unless you are desperate or have no place to store it I would suggest keeping it until Spring and then maybe you can find a buyer who will see the value in it.

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